AMS 4-AD or New Dermacrine?

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    AMS 4-AD or New Dermacrine?


    Any recommendations? I have Helladrol and Beastdrol on had to run with it. Thanks in advance.

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    Are you looking for a test base? Both of those will work great, I would go with AndroEnhance or AndroMass. http://www.primordialperformance.com...roenhance.html and http://www.primordialperformance.com...romass-v3.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryansm View Post
    Are you looking for a test base? Both of those will work great, I would go with AndroEnhance or AndroMass. http://www.primordialperformance.com...roenhance.html and http://www.primordialperformance.com...romass-v3.html
    Product looks good, but the money is an issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bklaves View Post
    Product looks good, but the money is an issue.
    I can offer you 25% off if you are interested PM me, either way the 4-Ad and the Dermacrine are both great options

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    To answer your question, I've never used the ams product, but when using methyls, I'm a big fan of transdermals to minimize traffic on the liver. I've used dermacrine several times. It's a good product. Now I just use test for a test base. It's the king.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stankyleg View Post
    To answer your question, I've never used the ams product, but when using methyls, I'm a big fan of transdermals to minimize traffic on the liver. I've used dermacrine several times. It's a good product. Now I just use test for a test base. It's the king.
    It should be even better with the new carrier. It dries quick and works very effectively.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stankyleg View Post
    To answer your question, I've never used the ams product, but when using methyls, I'm a big fan of transdermals to minimize traffic on the liver. I've used dermacrine several times. It's a good product. Now I just use test for a test base. It's the king.
    These aren't methyls. Both products bypass first pass metabolism by the liver.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Royd The Noyd

    These aren't methyls. Both products bypass first pass metabolism by the liver.
    He said he had helladrol and beastadrol to run with it. I, personally start to feel lethargy from multiple orals, esp if one is methylated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stankyleg View Post
    He said he had helladrol and beastadrol to run with it. I, personally start to feel lethargy from multiple orals, esp if one is methylated.
    It's pointless to use a methyl as a transdermal. The ams product also bypasses first pass metabolism. That's all I'm saying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Royd The Noyd

    It's pointless to use a methyl as a transdermal. The ams product also bypasses first pass metabolism. That's all I'm saying.
    I'm obviously having a problem communicating my point. That's all I'm saying.
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    OP is looking at running a methyl compound and he is looking for a test base it seems. The new Dermacrine would def be a worthwhile choice!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bklaves View Post
    Any recommendations? I have Helladrol and Beastdrol on had to run with it. Thanks in advance.
    Quote Originally Posted by stankyleg View Post
    To answer your question, I've never used the ams product, but when using methyls, I'm a big fan of transdermals to minimize traffic on the liver. I've used dermacrine several times. It's a good product. Now I just use test for a test base. It's the king.
    Quote Originally Posted by stankyleg View Post
    I'm obviously having a problem communicating my point. That's all I'm saying.
    I don't think you understand my point which is the ams products also avoid first pass metabolism, so saying dermacrine is better because it's transdermal is moot.

    Second 4-DHEA is better than DHEA in any form.

    Third you do not run the risk of contact transfer with the ams products.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Royd The Noyd

    I don't think you understand my point which is the ams products also avoid first pass metabolism, so saying dermacrine is better because it's transdermal is moot.

    Second 4-DHEA is better than DHEA in any form.

    Third you do not run the risk of contact transfer with the ams products.
    I see.
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    FWIW, 6 wks into a 1-dhea, 5-epiandro, & 4-dhea stack & the 4-AD from AMS has been great. Ran FRL's alphamass for the first bottle of 1-dhea & using Finaflex's 1-andro for the second; both give me an almost unbearable level of lethargy. But dosing 4-AD under the tongue til it dissolves 3x per day has made a night & day difference in energy levels. 4-AD wasn't there from the start, but soon as I brought it into the cycle I stopped hating work & life lol. Plus mad random b*ners, if that's worth anything to ya.

    Heard good things about Dermacrine too, haven't tried it yet.
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    I thought dermacrine was discontinued. It's never in stock anywhere...
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