Yea Creatine will be fine during and pct, just keep your diet clean and eat like a horse manOriginally Posted by swolegame12
I know this is a late addition but figured I would chime in since I was even younger when I was contemplating SD. I was 20 and had been lifting hard and had a tuned in diet for four years. I was very lean at 6'2" 185 lbs tested at 6% BF with calipers and it was hard to gain weight and stay lean for me. I read everything under the sun, usual find something from a reputable source, ie clinical trials, labs, gov, and guys on the forum who have been established for awhile.
Long story short I knew the risk vs reward with SD for a first time user. In my mind, why put my body through a cycle something I didn't really feel like taking at the time (meaning hdrol, etc) when I wanted something more aggressive. If I can do one cycle of SD vs, a cycle of HD then a SD cycle after I've assessed my tolerance to PH's then I'm going to. It meant less drugs running through my system overtime, less PH's, and less AI's and SERMs which each come with their own risks.
I made a calculated decision knowing the risks going into it that SD had the ability to do damage to my system. There is no safe drug, EVERY drug has a potential for side effects. X number of people will see undesirable effects when taking SD, same goes for anything. But you can go into the cycle prepared to mitigate/manage those risks. Do your research, have a PCT planned to the T and make up your mind.
I ran SD for my first cycle at 20, in retrospect I was too young and would certainly have waited. I made excellent gains, but I also suffered a mild case of delayed gyno that was a b*tch to treat but with raloxifene it went away. Long story short, read read then read some more.. decide whether or not the risks are worth the potential rewards. SD isn't harsh on everyone but it certainly can be.
If your cycle support has milk thistle in it I personally would try not to take it PWO. For some reason when I take anything with milk thistle PWO I feel really sick, maybe this is just me.
"Lifting and Game of Thrones share the same calendar, there's only two seasons: cutting and bulking. And guess what? Winter's comin' so it's time to bulk up!"
Vitamin B5 (pantothenic acid) can actually help with acne, but takes about 10 days to start having effects. It's very cheap and can be bought OTC most grocery stores or pharmaciesOriginally Posted by swolegame12
I had extreme acne and was on antibiotics. The concern with antibiotics is most are known to stress the liver. With antibiotics it is even more important to ensure No alcohal while on cycle and make sure you liver protection is in place. Cel Cycle Support is good. Many are saying Tudca is the best, but is hard to find. Tudca seems to be out of stock every where.
You could also try using Liv.52 as far as your liver goes. As for the antibiotic you're taking, I can't help you there because I don't know a thing about it. Alcoholics put a lot of stress on their liver for extreme periods of time. I don't think one month of SD is going to permantly effect you in the long run; as long as you take the necessary steps to protect your organs. Livers heal with time.. And our bodies can be very forgiving luckilyOriginally Posted by grega60438
I agree with the halodrol... awesome compound and very few sides. Pricey? No. You guys must not have a local dealer. Winstrol is 5x that price per mg.
Run the superdrol!! No seriously start low(10mg) and see how it treats you if sides are to much witch i doubt at that dose stop and start pct. Alot of guys I know made great gains on just one cap a day preworkout. My first cycle was superdmz rx with the sd and loved ever second of it and had very min sides.
Has anyone here ran Halo 25 by LGI before....?
Price for a bottle is awesome.Just wanna see if anyone here had expierience with it and would reccomend it..i finishes a couple bottles of Halo D by Dymatize,was very pleased.But at $60.00a bottle isnt cheap.LGI Halo 25 i cant get for $27.00 a bottle,so i will load up.If its gtg im going to pick up 4 bottles.
With my HD25 cycle..i was taking my Liver protectors and fish oils anywhere from 2-4 hours away from my last HD pill taken and that was at night before bed with a shake.
My protecting stack was :
-Myogenix Liver fix
-Optimen Multi Vitamin
1 hd pill with breakfast
1 hd pill with Lunch
1 hd pill post workout meal
I have no need to mess with harsher compounds,hd is very nice,good natural looking gains.Halo can be used with a bulking diet and a cutting diet..so it gets no better..
LGI is legit, buy it!
WORD...TY!!!! Found a site that has it for so damn cheap..There actually selling remaining Sd10 for $8.00 a bottle.Yeah im tempted but will pass.Originally Posted by wrxwhit
Going to pick myself up 4 bottles of HD
Personally I'll be running SD, as my second cycle ever. I never planned on running it at ALL, but after I saw it getting taken down by the new law, and the price of it...i HAD to lol picked up 4 bottles of the LGI for 7.99 each, can't beat that!Originally Posted by Jay888999
From wat site??? Prob same one im on. Pm me where u saw it,im tempted to pick up a bottle or two lol so damn cheapOriginally Posted by Red9
Today is the 29th..it's now illegal. I don't think companies are shipping anymore out brutha, but I'll pm you anyways!Originally Posted by Jay888999
for me no matter how many times I run SD I notice 2 things:
1: if I run it at only 20 per day then the side effects are minimized
2: if I increase the dosage to 30 or 40 I get better gains but have more side effects.
also adding a test-base to it definately reduces the side effects even if it is just something basic like 4-ad or dermacrine or ando enhance
For future cycles I think I will just run it at 20 and if the gains arent that great then I may stack it with a non-methyl such as furazadrol
Definitely good to know! Being the first time I would run it, I plan on running something similar to 10/10/20/20 with 4-ad and see how it goesOriginally Posted by captain19_
I ran it from 20/30/30/40/40 with test e600mg per week, and TNE 100mg pw with no sides, except really ****ed up liver values. I ran 1g of UDCA, and transforms liver protection. Gain 26 lbs in five weeks, I'm on week 8 of my cycle right now.Originally Posted by Red9
If u use 4 ad I would run it at double the dosage, and run forma surge with it. For a first Time I would only run it for 4 weeks, 10/10/20/20 maybe 30 the last week. But it really depends in how it's treating u. I would run injectable test if I were u. U'll enjoy it
How did they dose on off days?Originally Posted by tdotpro