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Current Liver Values=No Cycle?

  1.  08-10-2012  01:13 PM
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    Originally Posted by lboston View Post
    This is his inbetween cycle.He can run his epi after to see if his liver enzymes go down.TUDCA has been shown to specificly in one study to repair damage from methyl's even while on them.He runs that for this cycle heel be ready to go in no time flat!
    Do you gents feel a stano/ LMG stack for one bottle each would be fine for a first cycle or not enough for many gains?[/QUOTE]

    not sure about stano but 2 bottle of LMG for sure



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    Originally Posted by CATdiesel76

    Do you gents feel a stano/ LMG stack for one bottle each would be fine for a first cycle or not enough for many gains?
    not sure about stano but 2 bottle of LMG for sure[/QUOTE]

    Would anything be necessary for progesterone related sides? Isn't that common with LMG? I was thinking I'd just have erase for an AI.

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    Originally Posted by lboston View Post
    not sure about stano but 2 bottle of LMG for sure

    Would anything be necessary for progesterone related sides? Isn't that common with LMG? I was thinking I'd just have erase for an AI.
    I'm not sure the progesterone sides for lmg are sever enough for caber but that will help with those sides.Erase mite work.

    also stano needs to be dosed high.2 bottles I think.

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    m-lmg aggravated my prolactin gyno(im EXTREMELY PRONE TO THIS) so i would go to the doc and say you have restless leg syndrome and he will give u pramipexole for it(which is awesome)
    Originally Posted by pyrobatt View Post
    I'm not sure the progesterone sides for lmg are sever enough for caber but that will help with those sides.Erase mite work.

    also stano needs to be dosed high.2 bottles I think.

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    Originally Posted by Husker89
    m-lmg aggravated my prolactin gyno(im EXTREMELY PRONE TO THIS) so i would go to the doc and say you have restless leg syndrome and he will give u pramipexole for it(which is awesome)
    Thanks or the heads up.

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    Originally Posted by lboston View Post
    I really appreciate the information and suggestions.

    I actually had liver cancer as an infant and had part of the left love removed. It regenerated to nearly 100 percent. That's actually when the gallbladder was removed...to get to the tumor.

    Docs think the naturally low t levels could be primarily due to the chemotherapy I had at such a young age. I've only been on TRT about 9 months, but it's been a good nine months compared to how I felt beforehand.

    I know that it would be much wider to run an injectable cycle, but obtaining anything injectable other that my script is something I'm unsure of. The script comes in individual vials per shot, so there's no real way to "adjust" and cycle with that.

    I like the idea of Epi due to he anti-aromatizing properties and that users typically make lean gains and shed some bf.

    I'm in no rush to due anything; I was to make sure all is good to go first.
    jmo but, with your medical history, i wouldn't risk using oral steroids. your liver enzymes were slightly elevated from testosterone, so if you do a 17 aa oral they may go through the roof. there are documented cases of liver cancer from long term use of methylated steroids. i'm not trying to lecture or scare you but make sure you know what you're doing. if you are set on doing them, an injectable would be a safer option. its not that hard to get em if you look around on the internet.

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    Thanks, man. I appreciate the advice and concern. I talked to a doc and he stated that the liver functions fine and doesn't put any restrictions on alcohol consumption, tylenol, etc..
    I'm curious as to how regular drinking would compare to a mild oral?

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    New Labwork 8/10


    I had my liver functions tested on 8/10 to see where they are at. Just got the info back from the lab today. Here it is...

    Albumin 4.7 (3.5-5.0 g/dl)
    Globulin 2.7 (2.0-3.5 g/dl)
    A/G Ratio 1.7 (1.4-2.6 RATIO)
    Calcium 9.4 (8.7-10.4 mg/dl)
    ALT (SGPT) 50 H (10-40 U/L)
    AST (SGOT) 46 (15-50 U/L)
    Alkaline Phos. 54 (38-126 U/L)
    Total Bilirubin 0.5 (0.2-1.3 mg/dl)

    Any thoughts on this? I know the liver values are mildly elevated for ALT....
    These were done while taking Milk Thistle for about a week. I'm on 100mg T cyp every 6 days.

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    Originally Posted by lboston
    I had my liver functions tested on 8/10 to see where they are at. Just got the info back from the lab today. Here it is...

    Albumin 4.7 (3.5-5.0 g/dl)
    Globulin 2.7 (2.0-3.5 g/dl)
    A/G Ratio 1.7 (1.4-2.6 RATIO)
    Calcium 9.4 (8.7-10.4 mg/dl)
    ALT (SGPT) 50 H (10-40 U/L)
    AST (SGOT) 46 (15-50 U/L)
    Alkaline Phos. 54 (38-126 U/L)
    Total Bilirubin 0.5 (0.2-1.3 mg/dl)

    Any thoughts on this? I know the liver values are mildly elevated for ALT....
    These were done while taking Milk Thistle for about a week. I'm on 100mg T cyp every 6 days.
    That's a low as heck dose. They aren't that elevated now. Maybe epi is in your future after all

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    Unfortunately, before I'm ready to give it a go it may be a controlled substance if this bill passes!

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    Originally Posted by lboston
    Unfortunately, before I'm ready to give it a go it may be a controlled substance if this bill passes!
    Don't let anyone know you have it. I'm sure there are people still running bold because it was awesome.

  12.  08-14-2012  07:20 AM
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    Originally Posted by pyrobatt

    Don't let anyone know you have it. I'm sure there are people still running bold because it was awesome.
    Oh I wouldn't worry about being caught. Just getting it before it's gone!

  13.  08-14-2012  07:32 AM
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    Originally Posted by lboston

    Oh I wouldn't worry about being caught. Just getting it before it's gone!
    Oh yeah haha

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    Originally Posted by pyrobatt

    Oh yeah haha
    I wonder if a pulse would be significantly easier on the system.

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    Originally Posted by lboston

    I wonder if a pulse would be significantly easier on the system.
    Pulseing ewwww

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    Originally Posted by pyrobatt

    Pulseing ewwww
    Lol

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    the legislation that would effectively ban epi wont go up for a vote until next year PROBABLY. congress is only meeting 5 times or so before the end of the year. so plenty of time to stock up.

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    Originally Posted by pyrobatt View Post
    Don't let anyone know you have it. I'm sure there are people still running bold because it was awesome.
    do you mean the bold prohormone? why was it awesome? do you have experiences with that? what can be expected in terms of results?

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    Originally Posted by uubiduu

    do you mean the bold prohormone? why was it awesome? do you have experiences with that? what can be expected in terms of results?
    Bold was a great Ph. Its still around. Couple of new clones but it was a great liver friendly mass Ph. Stack it with any liver toxic thing out there. I want to try bold plus super dmz 2.0 one day.

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