- 08-07-2012, 05:31 AM
Quick question so if you were going to take a ten week cycle and wanted to use forma as an ai I know that on the bottle it says you can use it for that purpose for upto ten Weeks but my question is if you wanted to use it on cycle and then also in conjunction with your pct how would you recommend doing this/is it a problem to run it ten Weeks on cycle and then again during your pct?? 6'5 220 28Yo
- 08-07-2012, 05:49 AM
What's your cycle?BLACK LION RESEARCH
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08-07-2012, 02:30 PM
08-07-2012, 03:28 PM
yeah its a bitch to figure out whether to run something during the cycle and again in PCT...example I want to run DAA on cycle at night for help with suppression ....but want to run it for PCT as well....so that would be like 3-4 months on it....also running forma during this same cycle for 2 months, but I will run erase pro for PCT 6 weeks (has an AI in it of course)....I think its better to change it up after a few months, esp with AI's....JMO, but the DAA? I bet 3-4 months will be fine so I 'm gonna run it like that....
08-07-2012, 03:34 PM
Formeron poops all over formastanzol.
Used formastanz on a dmz/mlmg cycle, didnt help with bloat and i had a gyno flare up. This was 8 pumps twice daily. Didnt have any headrushes, hot flashes or duretic effect.
First dose of formeron, immediate headrush/mild headache.. next morning peed for what felt like 5 mins. Forearm splints/pain, shoulder and elbows were creaky at 2 pumps ed
08-07-2012, 03:37 PM
08-07-2012, 03:40 PM
08-07-2012, 03:43 PM
I was doing 8 pumps twice a day with formastanzol. With the formerone i was doing 2 pumps a day.
I think 10 pumps of forma= 100mg formestane
2 pumps (3mL) formeron= 150mg formestane
I moved to 1 pump ed of formeron and sti had joint discomfort, so i moved it to eod.. that seemed to work well for me.
08-07-2012, 03:44 PM
08-07-2012, 03:46 PM
08-07-2012, 03:48 PM
Maybe, or the carriers are that much different!Originally Posted by WARBIRDWS6
The one thing i noticed from forma was after application the area i applied it to tightened up.
08-07-2012, 03:49 PM
08-07-2012, 03:50 PM
08-07-2012, 03:53 PM
Fadogia IMO is one of the best natural t boosters, you could buy bulk carboxy as a prolactin inhibitor... pretty cheap.Originally Posted by WARBIRDWS6
08-07-2012, 04:01 PM
I gotta try the fadogia also. maybe I'll pick some up now, or use it on cycle instead of DAA??....
08-07-2012, 04:16 PM
I bet you sleep like a rock lolOriginally Posted by WARBIRDWS6
Id use the daa on cycle and fadogia for pct.
08-07-2012, 04:24 PM
08-08-2012, 08:41 PM
You could also use Prolactrone for Prolactin issues.
99%ldopa and green tea extract standardized for 50% EGCG
The stuff dominates prolactin.
08-08-2012, 08:54 PM
08-08-2012, 10:44 PM
Tried formestan-c.....didn't do SH*T!!!
Tried formestanzol. It possibly worked as my AI but I wouldn't know unless I had done blood work again to prove it. I can say I didn't notice ANY of the effects others claim such as water weight reduction, increased fat loss, or even 'spot reduction' of fat/water in the applied area.
Next go around I'd rather spend my money on a cheaper OTC ai or spend slightly more on the real deal.
08-09-2012, 01:39 PM
Formeron works well due to their transdermal carrier. Others not so much.
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08-09-2012, 03:20 PM
Our carrier is superior.
ours is 7$ less for the same amount of formestane per bottle.
2pumps = 150mg whereas it takes 15 pumps of the competitor.
Ours does not contain potential tumor or cancer causing agents and theirs does.
7,8 benzoflavone is also known as alpha naphthoflavone.
Its been shown to be carcinogenic in other studies as well. IM not gonna dig em all up but they are there. Here is one for you.
Am J Pathol. 1991 Sep;139(3):669-79.
Comparative morphologic and immunohistochemical studies of estrogen plus alpha-naphthoflavone-induced liver tumors in Syrian hamsters and rats.
Oberley TD, Slattery AF, Gonzalez A, Li SA, Li JJ.
Pathology Service, William S. Middleton Memorial Veterans Hospital, Madison, WI 53705.
Syrian hamsters were treated with ethinylestradiol and maintained on a diet containing alpha-naphthoflavone (alpha NF), a regimen that produces a high incidence of liver tumors. Morphologic analyses (light microscopy, immunoperoxidase studies, and electron microscopy) were performed on livers of these animals. After 4 months of hormone plus alpha NF treatment, marked hepatocyte cell changes were already present, as demonstrated by loss of eosinophilic staining of hepatocyte cytoplasm. Large multinucleated hepatocytes exhibiting frequent mitoses were observed around central veins. After 5 months of treatment, there was proliferation of bile ducts, and small cells with eosinophilic cytoplasm resembling hepatocytes appeared surrounding these bile ducts. At 7 to 8 months, the first tumor nodules (foci) were seen. Tumor foci in the portal area consisted of small clusters of large cells resembling hepatocytes with irregular nuclei. At the same time, dysplastic glands were identified among proliferating bile ducts. By 8 to 10 months, large tumors were present. These were trabecular hepatocellular carcinomas with widely varying individual cell morphology. Compared with adjacent liver, dysplastic glands in the portal areas, microcarcinomas, and large tumors all showed intense immunostaining for cytokeratin. Rats treated with the same regimen also developed hepatic tumors, but the light and electron microscopy results and immunohistochemical profiles were very different. Altered hepatic foci composed of small hepatocytes were typically prominent; however, malignant tumors did not arise from the portal area. Neither altered foci nor tumors stained significantly for cytokeratin. These data suggest that the biochemical events giving rise to these liver tumors differ between the species studied, despite the animals being exposed to the same treatment regimens.
PMID:1887866 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
Free PMC Article
08-09-2012, 03:56 PM
Are 2 pumps = 150mg the recommended daily dosage for formeron? this means one bottle would last how long? and what could i expect at this dosage?
08-09-2012, 04:08 PM
1 pump expells 1.5mL= 75mg formestane the rec dose i think is 100mg.Originally Posted by uubiduu
I started with 2 pumps ed, then backed it to 1 pump ed then 1 pump eod because of joint discomfort. Id start with 2 pumps and asses from there.
I noticed; headrush/mild headache after application, duretic effect aka peeing alot, loss of water retention
08-09-2012, 04:23 PM
I was going to buy your product but the realized that shipping makes yours more expensive by 2 or 3 bucks. FS ships free.Originally Posted by brundel
But price difference won't matter just wondering how your products transdermal carrier is better than FS.
Is your product a gel like or lotion or straight liquid?
2 pump or 20 pumps don't matter. Formestane is formestane
Is this superior to formasurge by Bps?
08-09-2012, 04:35 PM
Ours is a gel with better penetration enhancement.
You think it doesnt matter if you have to pump 20 sprays on you to get the same amount as 2. Odd. Most people would prefer to apply 2 pumps of a gel than have to spray 20 pumps all over yourself for the same amount.
Our is vastly superior to formasurge which is a copy of our product.
The manufacturer has no idea what hes doing and has liquids pouring from his pumps in addition to using chems toxic and skin irritating at the dose in the bottle.
In addition, considering the post I just made regarding tumor growth with 7,8 benzo if you still think formastanza should be used any price you may either have other agendas, or did not read the post.
08-09-2012, 04:43 PM
08-09-2012, 06:42 PM
Like saying 20 pills or two doesn't matter. I'd rather take less for same amount of product.Originally Posted by ,brundel,
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