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    Quote Originally Posted by epstaneman View Post
    No problem Turbo Man! heh ....Try your best to get that sleep in. You build muscle while at rest. Even though you take steroids/ph's, you still need adequate sleep and rest time to make muscle gains.
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    I didn't see much happen until late week 2-early week 3. I think the things you listed could be placebo. I actually felt less sore the next day and recovery was really fast (felt like I could do the same workout even the next day). Once I hit 100mg, my lifts skyrocketed by over 30kg on bench and squats(60-70 lbs). Im in 2nd week of pxt and kept all my strength and gains. Dropped body fat and gained roughly 4kg(~9-10lbs). hoping to keep everything when pxt is done. Hope that helps u out.
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    Just to clarify really quick. Is 50mg am then 25 mg pm the way to go or should i spread it out 25mg 3x a day. or does this even matter. probably just overthinking itt but I want the best gains possible so I dont wanna leave anything to risk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenMarine View Post
    Just to clarify really quick. Is 50mg am then 25 mg pm the way to go or should i spread it out 25mg 3x a day. or does this even matter. probably just overthinking itt but I want the best gains possible so I dont wanna leave anything to risk.

    Looks good to me. Allot of times people will have trouble going to sleep when taking a dose late evening. You may want to pop one an hour before you workout though. 1 am 1 pre workout 1 pm. Increase pump and strength can be noted from the pre-workout dose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenMarine View Post
    Just to clarify really quick. Is 50mg am then 25 mg pm the way to go or should i spread it out 25mg 3x a day. or does this even matter. probably just overthinking itt but I want the best gains possible so I dont wanna leave anything to risk.
    it has a long half life, 2 am, 1 an hour pre-workout should be fine. If thats close to bedtime you might wanna workout before work instead of after work, but I dont know your schedule. Keep killing the workouts, were all here supporting you!!!
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    Good to know, I haven't been able to really sleep for **** lately so that could be why. I've noticed that I'm started to feel a bit more solid but that's about it so far. I unfortunately had to take am unscheduled rest day today. I had some pretty bad stomach pain and threw up a bit. Had some "do you think this is still good" shrimp for dinner and about an hour after my question was answered. I'm gunna have to do some work in the kitchen and gym tomorrow. Thanks again for the support guys, definitely keepin me going on the late nights
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    Hey everyone, about 2 and a half weeks into the cycle and I am definitely seeing some solid results. work was interfering a little bit the last week especially with rest but I still got in the gym every night. No sides really noticed, my back started bothering me but i took some taurine before my workout today and it felt a whole lot better. Sorry this isnt really a log like I said it would be, I was not expecting to be so busy during the cycle. I can definitely say I am hitting new levels. Bench is up 15. Deadlift is up 20. shoulder press is up between 5-10 db and bb.
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    Its all good man, as long as your enjoying the cycle and making gains, thats what it's all about... 15lb increase on bench is nice, keep it up.
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    Sweet. Any type of muscle gains/fat loss so far? If not you should def. notice something into or after week 3.
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    Quote Originally Posted by epstaneman View Post
    Sweet. Any type of muscle gains/fat loss so far? If not you should def. notice something into or after week 3.
    I have noticed a bit of muscle gain, mostly in my arms and shoulders. fat is about the same, although my abs are starting to show more than usual. Its kind of hard to tell fat loss since ive been eating almost twice as much as I usually do. After I pct I am thinking of cutting, would that be alright if I wait til after my pct?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenMarine View Post
    I have noticed a bit of muscle gain, mostly in my arms and shoulders. fat is about the same, although my abs are starting to show more than usual. Its kind of hard to tell fat loss since ive been eating almost twice as much as I usually do. After I pct I am thinking of cutting, would that be alright if I wait til after my pct?

    I'd maintain weight a few months before cutting. Then I would cut VERY slowly. 1-2lbs a week. A mistake I see allot of people make is cutting to quickly after cycle and loosing allot of their gains. For that matter....what's the point of the cycle?

    Hope you continue to see some gains brotha. I'm starting my cycle this Monday. Can't wait.
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    Quote Originally Posted by epstaneman View Post
    I'd maintain weight a few months before cutting. Then I would cut VERY slowly. 1-2lbs a week. A mistake I see allot of people make is cutting to quickly after cycle and loosing allot of their gains. For that matter....what's the point of the cycle?

    Hope you continue to see some gains brotha. I'm starting my cycle this Monday. Can't wait.
    Makes sense, I'm not about to go through all these late gym nights and dieting just to cut quick and lose my gains.

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    Quote Originally Posted by epstaneman

    I'd maintain weight a few months before cutting. Then I would cut VERY slowly. 1-2lbs a week. A mistake I see allot of people make is cutting to quickly after cycle and loosing allot of their gains. For that matter....what's the point of the cycle?

    Hope you continue to see some gains brotha. I'm starting my cycle this Monday. Can't wait.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AaronJP1 View Post
    What cycle?
    Quote Originally Posted by GreenMarine View Post
    Makes sense, I'm not about to go through all these late gym nights and dieting just to cut quick and lose my gains.

    Good luck man! You gunna log it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by epstaneman
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    Whats good bro, you still having awesome workouts?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadmanMike
    Whats good bro, you still having awesome workouts?
    Yea man I really am startin to feel a difference, I bumped up 500 calories like you said. My appetite is through the roof. About half way done with the cycle and I'm goin harder than ever in there
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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenMarine View Post
    Yea man I really am startin to feel a difference, I bumped up 500 calories like you said. My appetite is through the roof. About half way done with the cycle and I'm goin harder than ever in there
    Thats awesome man, yeah adding calories is all you need sometimes to see a huge difference, I loved pmag when i used it, sounds like you are too...Looking forward to the end result, your bench still going up?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadmanMike

    Thats awesome man, yeah adding calories is all you need sometimes to see a huge difference, I loved pmag when i used it, sounds like you are too...Looking forward to the end result, your bench still going up?
    I'm gunna try to increase another 10 this week, we'll see what happens. I'm startin to run outta food and protein though, f***** typhoons got me stuck indoors. I was looking in the mirror after leg day yesterday and I saw a significant difference overall. Everything is looking nice and defined with a decent size increase.
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    What's goin on everyone. Quick update, lifts are going steady this week. There was a typhoon so I couldn't leave and get food the whole week so I was running on about 1500 Cals a day and limited water. Still was lifting though. Just stocked up on chicken fish and steak today along with plenty of carbs and a new water filter so I will be getting back on track today. Had my rest day yesterday after 6 straight days in the gym so I'm feeling chest and back today
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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenMarine View Post
    What's goin on everyone. Quick update, lifts are going steady this week. There was a typhoon so I couldn't leave and get food the whole week so I was running on about 1500 Cals a day and limited water. Still was lifting though. Just stocked up on chicken fish and steak today along with plenty of carbs and a new water filter so I will be getting back on track today. Had my rest day yesterday after 6 straight days in the gym so I'm feeling chest and back today
    Dang dude 1500 cals is my dinner haha, well you make due with what you got. Kill the workout bro.
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    Whats goin onn fellas. Havent beeen on here in a while due too a busy schedule and interent problems but I have gained 6.2 lbs since the beginning (weighed in the am before eating. I have definitely noticed an overall size and shape difference. Pictures soon to come. This cycle is everything I hoped it would be. diet back up to the 3000 area and right where I want it. I definitely noticed how much weaker I felt in the gym during the week with only 1500 cals a day. Yesterday was probably one of my most productive chest/back workouts ever
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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenMarine View Post
    Whats goin onn fellas. Havent beeen on here in a while due too a busy schedule and interent problems but I have gained 6.2 lbs since the beginning (weighed in the am before eating. I have definitely noticed an overall size and shape difference. Pictures soon to come. This cycle is everything I hoped it would be. diet back up to the 3000 area and right where I want it. I definitely noticed how much weaker I felt in the gym during the week with only 1500 cals a day. Yesterday was probably one of my most productive chest/back workouts ever
    6.2 pounds is solid, how much time do you have left on cycle? if its 2 weeks you can prob gain 3 more pounds if you up tp 3400 cals. Are you down in BF or staying the same? Glad to hear your back on track bro.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadmanMike View Post
    6.2 pounds is solid, how much time do you have left on cycle? if its 2 weeks you can prob gain 3 more pounds if you up tp 3400 cals. Are you down in BF or staying the same? Glad to hear your back on track bro.
    Yea just about 2 weeks left, Bodyfat is about the same, maybe a bit lower. Im about to upload a few progress pics
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    BTW before anybody says anything I bought some tanning lotion and laid outside in the sun for a few hours today (day after pic was taken) lol. takin baby steps
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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenMarine View Post
    BTW before anybody says anything I bought some tanning lotion and laid outside in the sun for a few hours today (day after pic was taken) lol. takin baby steps


    Nice to hear your stepping out of the twilight saga. Your arms look bigger and your lats look like they came out more. Body fat looks like it did stay the same....bout how much lbs are you up now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenMarine View Post
    BTW before anybody says anything I bought some tanning lotion and laid outside in the sun for a few hours today (day after pic was taken) lol. takin baby steps
    looking beast bro, pmag suits you well, Did you measure your bi's before you started they look alot bigger...you back is looking sic too!! Keep it up, the next two weeks should be the best!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadmanMike View Post
    looking beast bro, pmag suits you well, Did you measure your bi's before you started they look alot bigger...you back is looking sic too!! Keep it up, the next two weeks should be the best!!
    Thanks bro, My back looks way better then it ever has before. My tri's seem to have more of the horseshoe look now and my bi's look like they have a higher vertical peak. My legs are looking alot bigger as well. I went to the beach a few days ago and had japanese girls coming up to me asking if they could take pictures with me flexing haha. I was proud. Yea I did measurements before starting the cycle. Im gunna measure after the last day, and after pct.
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