Need advice regarding Bloodwork on pulse cycle
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08-02-2012 10:37 AM
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Need advice regarding Bloodwork on pulse cycle
Age:38
Current run: SD + epi pulse
MWF: 10mg SD(m-drol) + 10mg Epi(e-stane) before workout, then 10mg SD immediately after workout
Been on this protocol for 4 weeks. Lifts way up and up 12 lbs. Only side has been very low libido.
Had labs done(female hormone panel through mdlabsmd). Horribly shut down:
Total test: 37
Estradial: 26.8
LH: .9
FSH: 1.3
AST: 45 (slight elevation)
ALT: normal range
My plan was to jump on hrt as I have always been on low side of normal. Concerned now that end or primary doctor will freak at results. Should I start pct with clomid or continue pulse and just see doctor .
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08-02-2012 10:56 AM
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08-02-2012 11:01 AM
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My concern is that if I start pct, my test levels will go to low normal and then no hrt. I guess I just need some timing advice so my test levels will be low but not so low that questions about anabolics come up.
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08-02-2012 11:14 AM
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So you want to get on HRT?
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08-02-2012 11:19 AM
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I have wanted to get on hrt for last few years. I was tested about 2 years ago and was in the 400s. Doctor wouldn't put me on hrt because my age and still borderline. Instead, I'm on adderall for add and antidepressant. I believe I am being treated for symptoms but not the underlying cause-low T. I just want to pin and be on the high end of scale and see if my other problems subside.
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08-02-2012 11:24 AM
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I have the same problem...you're never sure when to get tested and what to be on or not be on....who knows wtf they are looking for in order to approve trt and what is a red flag and what is not etc...
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08-02-2012 11:30 AM
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Yeah, I figured high liver or cholesterol readings would be obvious red flags. I just need to find an aggressive doctor willing to prescribe me a reasonable dose such as 200mg cyp/week and let me self inject. I'm afraid I'll end up with the biweekly 200mg injection at the dr.' s office. Anyone know of male-friendly (no homo
) doctor in St. Louis area? What about any on-line clinics that don't cost like $400 per month?
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08-02-2012 11:31 AM
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If you go in like 1 week after you finish your cycle you may have a good chance of getting qualified for HRT because your levels will be up but not completely stabilized. But idk I'm just a guy with a PHD in bro science
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08-02-2012 11:35 AM
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So Lacross, should I stop pulse cycle now, get on clomid for a week, then see Doc? Would it be better to see primary doc first, or go straight to endo? Figure it will take at least 2 or 3 weeks to get in to a specialist such as endo.
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08-02-2012 12:26 PM
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well this pretty much proves that a pulse cycle will shut you down. lol probably should have gotten tested at the end of the first week or so. when the suppression is just starting. next best thing would be like lacross said, a week into pct. btw a primary should be able to handle this. hrt is easy to get if ur old enough. the doc my dad goes to has posters on the wall about low t. says ask today about hrt. lol i wish he'd get on it so i could use it as a test base.
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08-02-2012 12:44 PM
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Yeah RH, shut down hard. I thought test would be somewhat suppressed, but 37 wtf? If I want to get hrt, what about the following plan?
Stop cycle now, do 1 week of Clomid at 50mg/day followed by week of no clomid but lots of liver and cholesterol support, then schedule appt with doc after being off clomid for 1-2 weeks. (long half-life, 5 days). Retest and hope that numbers are still low, but not absurdly low? Does this sound feasible? I just don't know what clomid will do to my fsh and lh levels at this dose.
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08-02-2012 12:55 PM
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It's hard to say where I as I would never recommend anyone to cut a PCT short like this. But it may be your best option in your case if you want to get HRT from a reg doc soon, but I would recommend getting a Endocrinologist instead... They tend to be more progressive towards today TRT/HRT protocol. They would be my best guess
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08-02-2012 01:06 PM
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personally i'd do the complete pct and get normalized and go from there. there is no way to know how the clomid will affect you without trying it.
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08-02-2012 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by RH2012
personally i'd do the complete pct and get normalized and go from there. there is no way to know how the clomid will affect you without trying it.
This is also a valid point^
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