Prohormone vs. Injectable
- 07-29-2012, 04:16 PM
you fail to realize how ester's work, or have an understanding of cycle length.
you can run a 6 week of methyl test at a dosage appropriate for 6 weeks.
you can run non methylated androgens longer, and if injected, get more into your system.
but if you were to make a cycle of methyl test, with dosages that will be equal to the potency of say, 500mg of test e, regardless, after 6-8 weeks, your cycle is over any more time, and you are just delaying the inevitable.
but mg for mg, methyl test is much more potent than test, so if you were to equate the dosages to be similar in potency mg for mg, you'd have a pretty low dose of methyl test. and prob feel great.
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- 07-29-2012, 04:20 PM
- 07-29-2012, 04:21 PM
yo foxpharma, everyone here loves injectable test obviously, but you saying that it is (first it was ALL injectables now it is just test) better than any oral is just wrong. Take test e for 3 weeks and superdrol for 3 weeks and tell me how much stronger you got on sd than on test. They are both better and different things for different goals, but to say all injectables are "stronger" stilll undefined than all orals is just stupid and wrong.
- 07-29-2012, 04:21 PM
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- 07-29-2012, 04:26 PM
Originally Posted by jbryand101b
Because butenandt and ruzicka isolate testosteron 1935 and make through synthesis methyl testosteron? What is your point bro? Germans invented testosteron aqeus suspension 1939. If someone say methyl testosteron is better then testosteron enanthat then this person is just stupid. Or sacred or needles. - 07-29-2012, 04:32 PM
Originally Posted by Husker89
- 07-29-2012, 04:46 PM
testosterone:
aa ratio: 100/100
half life: 4 hours
oral bioavailability: poor
methyl testosterone:
aa ratio: 115-150/94-130 (hey, it's better!)
half life: 6-8 hours (hey, this is better too!)
oral bioavailability: good (hey, better!)
injectable non esterfied versions of both? yes.
scared of needles, funny.
i wonder how often you inject test suspension for 6-8 week cycles. which, just like an oral, is all you want to run it. why? because there is no time to build up active steroid in the body by removal of the ester.
so, like an oral, it begins working immediately, and unfortunately most retards who dont read data, wont realize 6-8 weeks is as long as you can go on androgens.
can you choose to stay on? yes, but you are just delaying the post cycle crash, and if you stay on supraphysiological dosages, increasing you health risk.
test is great, no cycle should be without it. but the best is debatable. some might like boldenone better.
test was so great, they didn't need to modify it structurally to enhance/change the properties, via a 1-ene group, causing less aromatization, less androgenicity, and more anabolic effect, while also increasing the half life.
oh wait, they did do that, they made boldenone, because test does aromatize, and have negative androgenic effects. - 07-29-2012, 04:52 PM
what do you mean long term?
if you mean you can run the cycle longer, and this is better, then you should take this to patrick arnold and tell him how stupid you think he is.
cycle length.... - 07-29-2012, 05:22 PM
Originally Posted by jbryand101b
- 07-29-2012, 05:57 PM
- 07-29-2012, 08:58 PM
ive been wanting to switch over to injectables but i have no idea where to start. are there any good articles to read up on?
- 07-29-2012, 09:28 PM
- 07-29-2012, 10:04 PM
- 07-29-2012, 10:11 PM
iml, yea, those are sum smert guys over there. def the place to be for all the latest bro science on aas. im sure that forum keeps heavyiron pretty busy.
- 07-29-2012, 10:12 PM
Test half life 4 hrs. LOL at jbry for being a derpy derp. Test e and c have half live of 14 days. The only difference between the two is Enan is one molecule shorter. Go back to your store bought phs retard.
- 07-29-2012, 10:21 PM
test e and c are esterfied versions of testosterone dumbasz
testosterone has a half life of 4 hours, why do you think they slapped esters on it genius?
make yourself some test suspension, then inject it every 4-6 hours.
you will have a clear understanding of why they put esters onto androgens. - 07-29-2012, 11:03 PM
- 07-30-2012, 12:25 AM
- 07-30-2012, 03:47 AM
Originally Posted by Husker89
- 07-30-2012, 04:11 AM
Husker you don't even discuss with me by yourself, you need your all knowing friend to help you make clear how porno orals are..... reps for that, so people believe you more. Reps=knowledge? Sadly no
- 07-30-2012, 06:04 AM
- 07-30-2012, 06:43 AM
There are many paths to the end result (getting swole) I have done a couple of phs and I'm on the way soon to look at getting pined - gotta say that I loved the helladrol and hallotest-25 and can't really bag them out as it achieved what I set out to do and both got me over my plateau and i gaind quite a few kilos and strenght that i have kept from both cycles , its been over 9 months since last cycle and now I looking at pinning a ass as it it pretty hard to get phs here in Australia as they are banned and if you buy them on the black market they sell up to triple their price , but it pretty easy to get test d-Bol , sust , anvar and winny so for if you have the connects sure there are all different types of juice that are effective as well as ph's for cutting and bulking , recomp so for , some may be the Lamborghini others the bummed out hatch back but in the end as long as I gotta car to get from a to b I anit to fussed about it as long as I'm doing it safely support sups serm and so forth ( in Australia just about every effective sup is banned)- though I can't wait to start pinning after I've done all my research on it. just happy to have had experienced a couple of phs.. Just out to train hard and tren harder on the road to swolleness can't compare things as I don't have the knowlege and experience but still happy and willing to do both. Lots knowlege here on am glad to be here learning wisdom
eat like a monster, lift like a madman and sleep like a baby - 07-30-2012, 10:17 AM
- 07-30-2012, 10:22 AM
10 week cycle test prop as base.
1-3 sd @ 20mg, pheraplex @ 30mg
week 8-11 winni @ 50mg e/d to dry up
get big, ripped, and feel amazing.
best of all areas. you got your old forgotten powerful steroids that are sold as pro hormones, got your test base, and your still used in medicine oral steroid.
Everybody who knows something about androgenic/anabolic hormones wins, only those who dont realize the power of compounds which were sold as ph's will be sad.
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