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  1.  07-28-2012  05:51 PM
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    This is part of what we now call the 'Grey areas' or 'grey markets'
    In other words the clones are barley legal lol



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    No one addresses the fact that he mentions his liver values. Did you run lives support while on cycle? If not there's your problem
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    Pro hormones are for the weak and uneducated. Man up and get some test and tren. Leave those fancy little boxes on the shelves at ***.

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    Originally Posted by Husker89
    OK MORONS, injectables can be less strong or stronger then oral steroids. These gay comparisons of cars and bikes are retarded, methylated masteron(SD) is way more anabolic than testosterone, but testosterone is more androgenic thean SD. They are all just different. If u want to run longer cycles, obviously use injectables because of liver stress from methylation. BUt to say that all injectables are better then all oral steroids is just wrong and stupid
    If you would have read my entire post you would have noticed I was comparing current Legal PH and DS to Injectable gear, I was NOT comparing injectable gear with oral STEROIDS like Tbol, Dbol, Anadrol etc.

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    Originally Posted by Jitbjake88
    Pro hormones are for the weak and uneducated. Man up and get some test and tren. Leave those fancy little boxes on the shelves at ***.
    Your post is retarded their not weak and some are designer steroids as strong as aas for instance superdrol.

    Also phs are safer in a sense to not being scanned and knowing what's in the product lots of dogey people seeing aas which have god knows what in them and not tested.

    If phs were so weak why are they used so much and people can easily gain a stone of them.

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    Originally Posted by Gym4Life View Post
    Your post is retarded their not weak and some are designer steroids as strong as aas for instance superdrol.

    Also phs are safer in a sense to not being scanned and knowing what's in the product lots of dogey people seeing aas which have god knows what in them and not tested.

    If phs were so weak why are they used so much and people can easily gain a stone of them.
    yup.

    Also, a lot of products marketed as "prohormones" are in fact active steroids that require no conversion after ingestion.

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    Yes, I'd did run CEL Cycle Assist and PCT, I did all the precautionary things while taking Hdrol.
    Maybe this is the route I'll go again since it would be easier, either Hdrol again or another PH that might be the next step up. I want to gain size, but not wet gains.
    I guess my biggest complaint of doing this was when I got the Nolva from some site, to this day 2 years later, I get these phone calls soliciting Viagara and **** from India. I work for a living off my phone, if ordering this stuff online and they sell my info, I'm hesitant to do so again.

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    Originally Posted by Leftyz View Post
    Yes, I'd did run CEL Cycle Assist and PCT, I did all the precautionary things while taking Hdrol.
    Maybe this is the route I'll go again since it would be easier, either Hdrol again or another PH that might be the next step up. I want to gain size, but not wet gains.
    I guess my biggest complaint of doing this was when I got the Nolva from some site, to this day 2 years later, I get these phone calls soliciting Viagara and **** from India. I work for a living off my phone, if ordering this stuff online and they sell my info, I'm hesitant to do so again.
    thats never happened to me. find somebody new to do business with. there are plenty of research comps around.

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    Originally Posted by Gym4Life

    Your post is retarded their not weak and some are designer steroids as strong as aas for instance superdrol.

    Also phs are safer in a sense to not being scanned and knowing what's in the product lots of dogey people seeing aas which have god knows what in them and not tested.

    If phs were so weak why are they used so much and people can easily gain a stone of them.
    Because you people in the us don't have the access to unlimited pharma grade gear. Plus don't know your laws but u people are very paranoid about getting busted. So what else can you do but phs??

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    WTF, I see no mention of a good liver support here. CEL Cycle Assist is not sufficient enough for liver support. UDCA, TUDCA = BEST, Liv.52, Liver Juice, you need something solely working on your liver if a cycle hits you that hard. I don't have any liver problems from running SD solo, no supports and still my upcoming cycle includes UDCA. Being precautious for myself, but if you know that a PH is hard on the liver for you, get yourself something designed for your liver.

    Other guys, quit measuring your dick size and talk about his problem, his liver. WTF read the dam post
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    i dont understand why TUDCA/UDCA isnt used much more nowadays. i never would run a methyl without it.

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    I read a study where it needs to be ran tudca/udca at at least a 1 gram to 2 a day?
    Originally Posted by uubiduu View Post
    i dont understand why TUDCA/UDCA isnt used much more nowadays. i never would run a methyl without it.

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    Originally Posted by howwedo107 View Post
    Here's an example

    PH=a car from the fast and furious...yes it's fancy and fast

    Injectable AAS=NASCAR

    Both will be better then your average 1992 Honda civic (Creatine) but they are a little different in terms of gains and time on as well
    AAS = major league
    Ph= minor league

    Lots of dudes on here get great results off of ph's. Less of a risk with a really good reward. AAS comes along w a bigger risk in acquiring and possessing but the results are better. Personally, if I am going to mess w the homeostasis of my body, I'd rather be all in w AAS. It's just a personal decision.

    On this site at least, ph's seem to be much more popular.

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    what do u mean by prohormones? like the real meaning like hdrol? Or like all legal designer steroids like epistane and superdrol? Because the latter are just as strong or stronger than injectables
    Originally Posted by Johnnyboy004 View Post
    AAS = major league
    Ph= minor league

    Lots of dudes on here get great results off of ph's. Less of a risk with a really good reward. AAS comes along w a bigger risk in acquiring and possessing but the results are better. Personally, if I am going to mess w the homeostasis of my body, I'd rather be all in w AAS. It's just a personal decision.

    On this site at least, ph's seem to be much more popular.

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    Originally Posted by foxpharma View Post
    Because you people in the us don't have the access to unlimited pharma grade gear. Plus don't know your laws but u people are very paranoid about getting busted. So what else can you do but phs??
    All I use is pharm grade test. Watson, and paddock.. And yes if you don't mind shooting your liver values threw the roof by all means do a ph. I've been blast cruising for 4yrs. And the only orals ill touch are var and halo.

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    [QUOTE=Johnnyboy004;3522048]AAS = major league
    Ph=pee wee.

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    I did havoc with nolva pct last year, boodwork just a few days after last 10mg nolva. Liver values where perfect... I even had a few drinks during the end of pct. Nolva is a drug they put people on for years, less toxic than ibuprofen.
    Btw. High doses of painkillers will show up on liver values...

    A friend had on cycle bloodwork on test cyp, deca, sust. And anadrol as kickstart.. His bp was in high normal range, blood values where not too good. Liver however was fine, even after 2 weeks of abombs...50-100mg a day! So some people migjt have better livers;-)

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    I'm not from the us I'm from the uk and I do have access I just choose not to.

    When I get get a ph legally and it will work and I know what pct to run for it why do I need to risk aas.

    I'm sure lots will agree that epistane is safer and a better compound than winstrol.

    Also hdrol is amazing need I say more.

    I think designer pro hormones are brilliant if they wasent they wouldn't be so popular is real injectable test king yes of course it is does it make phs crap and people idiots for taking them no it doesn't.

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    Originally Posted by Gym4Life
    I'm not from the us I'm from the uk and I do have access I just choose not to.

    When I get get a ph legally and it will work and I know what pct to run for it why do I need to risk aas.

    I'm sure lots will agree that epistane is safer and a better compound than winstrol.

    Also hdrol is amazing need I say more.

    I think designer pro hormones are brilliant if they wasent they wouldn't be so popular is real injectable test king yes of course it is does it make phs crap and people idiots for taking them no it doesn't.
    Of course are people NOT stupid when they take phs. I say that with the us because phs are more popular there then here in Europe. There are many ways two reach the goal....

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    A point to consider is maybe that you have to rely on some supp company. There were not just one case were the **** was mixed in you don't even know. Pharmacy industry got very tight controls, they sell 100%.

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