This is part of what we now call the 'Grey areas' or 'grey markets'
In other words the clones are barley legal lol

No one addresses the fact that he mentions his liver values. Did you run lives support while on cycle? If not there's your problem
I don't go lift, I don't go workout, I don't go train....I go get sexy....sexy as fwuark!!!!!!!!!
Pro hormones are for the weak and uneducated. Man up and get some test and tren. Leave those fancy little boxes on the shelves at ***.
If you would have read my entire post you would have noticed I was comparing current Legal PH and DS to Injectable gear, I was NOT comparing injectable gear with oral STEROIDS like Tbol, Dbol, Anadrol etc.Originally Posted by Husker89
Your post is retarded their not weak and some are designer steroids as strong as aas for instance superdrol.Originally Posted by Jitbjake88
Also phs are safer in a sense to not being scanned and knowing what's in the product lots of dogey people seeing aas which have god knows what in them and not tested.
If phs were so weak why are they used so much and people can easily gain a stone of them.
Yes, I'd did run CEL Cycle Assist and PCT, I did all the precautionary things while taking Hdrol.
Maybe this is the route I'll go again since it would be easier, either Hdrol again or another PH that might be the next step up. I want to gain size, but not wet gains.
I guess my biggest complaint of doing this was when I got the Nolva from some site, to this day 2 years later, I get these phone calls soliciting Viagara and **** from India. I work for a living off my phone, if ordering this stuff online and they sell my info, I'm hesitant to do so again.
Because you people in the us don't have the access to unlimited pharma grade gear. Plus don't know your laws but u people are very paranoid about getting busted. So what else can you do but phs??Originally Posted by Gym4Life
WTF, I see no mention of a good liver support here. CEL Cycle Assist is not sufficient enough for liver support. UDCA, TUDCA = BEST, Liv.52, Liver Juice, you need something solely working on your liver if a cycle hits you that hard. I don't have any liver problems from running SD solo, no supports and still my upcoming cycle includes UDCA. Being precautious for myself, but if you know that a PH is hard on the liver for you, get yourself something designed for your liver.
Other guys, quit measuring your dick size and talk about his problem, his liver. WTF read the dam post
I don't go lift, I don't go workout, I don't go train....I go get sexy....sexy as fwuark!!!!!!!!!
i dont understand why TUDCA/UDCA isnt used much more nowadays. i never would run a methyl without it.
AAS = major league
Ph= minor league
Lots of dudes on here get great results off of ph's. Less of a risk with a really good reward. AAS comes along w a bigger risk in acquiring and possessing but the results are better. Personally, if I am going to mess w the homeostasis of my body, I'd rather be all in w AAS. It's just a personal decision.
On this site at least, ph's seem to be much more popular.
[QUOTE=Johnnyboy004;3522048]AAS = major league
Ph=pee wee.
I did havoc with nolva pct last year, boodwork just a few days after last 10mg nolva. Liver values where perfect... I even had a few drinks during the end of pct. Nolva is a drug they put people on for years, less toxic than ibuprofen.
Btw. High doses of painkillers will show up on liver values...
A friend had on cycle bloodwork on test cyp, deca, sust. And anadrol as kickstart.. His bp was in high normal range, blood values where not too good. Liver however was fine, even after 2 weeks of abombs...50-100mg a day! So some people migjt have better livers;-)
I'm not from the us I'm from the uk and I do have access I just choose not to.
When I get get a ph legally and it will work and I know what pct to run for it why do I need to risk aas.
I'm sure lots will agree that epistane is safer and a better compound than winstrol.
Also hdrol is amazing need I say more.
I think designer pro hormones are brilliant if they wasent they wouldn't be so popular is real injectable test king yes of course it is does it make phs crap and people idiots for taking them no it doesn't.
Of course are people NOT stupid when they take phs. I say that with the us because phs are more popular there then here in Europe. There are many ways two reach the goal....Originally Posted by Gym4Life
A point to consider is maybe that you have to rely on some supp company. There were not just one case were the **** was mixed in you don't even know. Pharmacy industry got very tight controls, they sell 100%.