OSTA RX SHUTDOWN
- 07-27-2012, 12:46 PM
OSTA RX SHUTDOWN
Hello all I am on my last 3 days of OSTA RX. Just got my BW back and it looks like I am shutdown. My background: NEVER RAN A PH Before. ONly ran D-pol and erase pro. Unfortunately the only BW i have to go off of is when i was 3weeks in on my D-pol and Erase Pro. So here is the before and after. I am assuming if Dpol work my test levels should b in the 600's seeing is i am 32. I have Clomid on hand and D-pol and erase pro. Could you guys give a look at my bloods and give me PCT advice?
- 07-27-2012, 12:49 PM
I ran it for four weeks at three tabs mg/day and although I didn't have blood tests done I don't think it shut me down at all.
- 07-27-2012, 12:59 PM
Sorry but unless you have baseline bloods before the DAA and Erase Pro then these tests show nothing in terms of hormonal function imo
07-27-2012, 03:46 PM
07-27-2012, 03:47 PM
07-27-2012, 05:01 PM
soooooo nobody has any pct recommendations?
07-27-2012, 05:52 PM
How many milligrams of Osta did you take per day?
07-27-2012, 05:53 PM
07-27-2012, 05:57 PM
I'd say go with TOREM and some ERASE for PCT. You say you're feeling just fine - that you are strong and don't feel shutdown. So I would just go with 60mg's of TOREM / day for a month - then reassess with more bloods.
Or you could use Clomid - 50mg's a day.
I like Torem better though but that's just a personal preference.
07-27-2012, 06:08 PM
07-27-2012, 06:52 PM
Personally - I don't think you're hurting here so I would just do 50 mg's ED for 3 weeks, then taper to 25 for one or two.
07-27-2012, 07:03 PM
Thnk you so much for your post. Awww man wish i wouldve known im all about libido boost lol and nice thats good to hear you got results back and proof of test increase.i only got liquid Clomid and it says 70ml 35mg/ml so thats sayun 1 ml equals 1 35mg dose? If so i might need to do a bit of math to get a 50 mg dosageOriginally Posted by HondaV65
07-27-2012, 08:21 PM
Clomid is always the best option for PCT.....but it usually comes with the worst sides for most guys. so that kinda sucks
07-27-2012, 08:22 PM
I didn't feel shutdown at all on 4 weeks of 20mg osta rx....but I have no "proof"....I did run intimidate and forma with it though, so that probably helped in that regard....
07-27-2012, 11:16 PM
07-27-2012, 11:18 PM
07-27-2012, 11:23 PM
07-27-2012, 11:27 PM
BTW: I did 50/25/25/25 last month with clomid and STILL got the shytty sides
07-27-2012, 11:38 PM
I've seen other before an after bloods with Osta and it appears that after a while your estradiol increases, which is very suppressive. So, Osta won't directly shut you down, but indirectly by increasing estradiol.
07-27-2012, 11:50 PM
07-28-2012, 01:07 AM
This is intresting.....is this more than one case u have seen?Originally Posted by supermanjow
07-28-2012, 01:09 AM
Well good luck on the Osta run man.Originally Posted by WARBIRDWS6
LoL dam ,wat sides did you get bro?
07-28-2012, 12:15 PM
07-28-2012, 12:28 PM
07-28-2012, 01:55 PM
07-28-2012, 03:08 PM
Being as it's suppressive I would actually do the opposite dosing. Remember that the point of PCT is to get things working properly again. So, if you are taking a substance that will eventually shut you down while already being shut-down you run the risk of not recovering properly. So, start with 13 ramping down to 6.5 and eventually switching to another natural substance. I would also continue the AI past the end of the Osta.
07-28-2012, 03:55 PM
(forma on cycle-8 weeks) then PCT:
osta 1-4 6.5mg per day
osta 5-8 13mg per day
Erase Pro 1-6 1 per day
OG erase/6-bromo 7-10 XX per day
but yeah, sounds reasonable to start bigger then go smaller on the osta dosage....I just figured the first month, in PCT, is where you would want to keep things lower dosed so it won't mess with the recovery....but I could see the reasoning on both sides.....
07-28-2012, 05:48 PM
Yeah, you want to hang onto as much mass as possible post-cycle, but you also want to make sure that you're focusing on restoring HPTA that's the most important part of PCT. Also, after a while your body can start to upregulate myostatin and you need to reset that also. That's why even the guys that stay on year round have to blast and cruise. Your body gets used to a certain level and then to gain you step it up, but then you have to go back down to the level it's used to in order to progress.
07-28-2012, 05:52 PM
Your LH and FSH signal are still pretty decent. I don't see any serious suppression.
Might toss an AI in there at the very most. Or just recover fully natty.
07-28-2012, 07:30 PM
Ya i notice they were not to low. So you are suggesting no clomid?Originally Posted by heavyiron
07-28-2012, 07:59 PM
07-28-2012, 08:15 PM
Thank you for clarifying that for me. From what i had had read i was a bit confused on to what exactly constitutes "shut down" (: i think i will run Dpol and erase pro then. I was just scared to lose my gainsOriginally Posted by heavyiron
07-28-2012, 08:46 PM
07-28-2012, 08:50 PM
07-28-2012, 09:24 PM
Thank you for all your help brotha!!!. I will my diet is spot on 98% of the week haha (; Thnk u again for the valueable knowledgeOriginally Posted by heavyiron
07-28-2012, 09:56 PM
07-29-2012, 12:10 PM
I dont know why I am thinking this, but if i start erase pro and dpol, do you think it would be wise to run Osta Rx for another one to two weeks?Originally Posted by heavyiron
07-29-2012, 01:14 PM
07-29-2012, 01:34 PM
I think i might consider doing 1-2 more weeksOriginally Posted by heavyiron
07-29-2012, 01:36 PM
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