Does 'Epistane' convert to 'Phera'?

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henry the blue labeled unmethylated analogue EP in the diagram has a methyl on c5
 
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I've got some Havoc from when that first came out... 2006ish?

So I wonder how close that might be to Phera?
 
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Supposedly it degrades into phera. Don't know how long it takes, what the conditions might have to be, etc..who knows really.
 

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I am on Epi right now, I am doing a log in this section if you want to look, what would be some differences in the two in regards to effects and side effects?
 
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Phera is a lot more "wetter" than Epi. I doesn't automatize but there is something estrogenic going on there. If you got Phera - you'd know it. This isn't to say Phera is bad, back when this rumor that "EPI has Phera" in it started circulating - some guys were extremely excited by that possibility.

If I remember correctly - it may devolve into Phera when it's placed under heat - but I think it requires a lot of heat, maybe someone else would know.

I'm on a three week Epi now and it's Epi - I'm dryer' than a popcorn fart! :)
 
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It's just a poorly-labelled image. It's an H. It's epitiostanol.
i see

the trihydroxy metabolite of desoxymethyltestosterone was found through human hepatocytes

the 2009 study found it in the urine of the volunteer

i don't see this metabolite found in the Japanese rat study using the unmethylated epi through the chart... was it found in the actual study?
 

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i see

the trihydroxy metabolite of desoxymethyltestosterone was found through human hepatocytes

the 2009 study found it in the urine of the volunteer

i don't see this metabolite found in the Japanese rat study using the unmethylated epi through the chart... was it found in the actual study?
This isn't a Q&A.
 
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