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    Isn't it true methylated steroids are going to stress your liver regardless of whatver "support sup" you use?

    I see all these people taking supplement after supplement, "preloading", etc... and then there's still PCT where even more come into play.

    Honestly, it's just not worth taking all this crap for a cycle that won't be anywhere near as effective as an injectable cycle.

    I'll be running superdrol without one single support sup, and not a f*ck will be given.

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    Good story.
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    LOL... tell us how it goes... might want to get bloodwork pre-mid-post as well...
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    Quote Originally Posted by R1187
    Isn't it true methylated steroids are going to stress your liver regardless of whatver "support sup" you use?

    I see all these people taking supplement after supplement, "preloading", etc... and then there's still PCT where even more come into play.

    Honestly, it's just not worth taking all this crap for a cycle that won't be anywhere near as effective as an injectable cycle.

    I'll be running superdrol without one single support sup, and not a f*ck will be given.
    I'm sure you'll live. Nbd
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    Yes, 99% chance he'll live without issues, but I guarantee his bloods will be in the sh*tter longer without support supps than with... its not only about your liver when doing ANY cycle...
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    what are you trying to impress people with your lack of concern. well im impressed. manbeast im getting some end of 3rd week SD bloods to see how well the UDCA is doing. ill post them in my log should be up next Friday or Saturday check it out
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    Quote Originally Posted by ManBeast
    Yes, 99% chance he'll live without issues, but I guarantee his bloods will be in the sh*tter longer without support supps than with... its not only about your liver when doing ANY cycle...
    Word. His dick won't work, liver enzymes skyrocketed and lipid values chart will look like the letter Z lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by R1187
    Isn't it true methylated steroids are going to stress your liver regardless of whatver "support sup" you use?

    I see all these people taking supplement after supplement, "preloading", etc... and then there's still PCT where even more come into play.

    Honestly, it's just not worth taking all this crap for a cycle that won't be anywhere near as effective as an injectable cycle.

    I'll be running superdrol without one single support sup, and not a f*ck will be given.
    Running methyls isn't for every1. Usually also a waste of money for some. Are you eating & lifting like a man? Those two things come 1st in getting the job done.
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    Aarons back to the hot lady pics.. reps for that
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    Quote Originally Posted by R1187 View Post

    I'll be running superdrol without one single support sup, and not a f*ck will be given.
    I have to respect this sentence....I might have to put it in my sig
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    Hepatotoxicity ***
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    I vary rarely* use any cycle support on cycle

    But, that's probably why my hdl was 18, and ldl 160 on my last cycle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RH2012

    the older i get , the more i am concerned about lipids. do you think there is anything on the market otc that will work for this?
    Toca has gotten a lot of positive reviews, as many ppl run this year round. Perhaps you should look into this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by howwedo107
    LIV 52 is as far as I go...worse comes to worse ill buy a monkey liver off the black market or something lolol
    Heard LIV 52 is the bees knees!
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    I have seen kids buy random superdrol clones and other ph's and just pop them for 8 weeks straight with no PCT afterwards. They're fine now, but who knows what kind of unseen problems will arise down the road. Just like all the bodybuilders from the 70's having their issues now.
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    FOR the record i have ran 10 cycles with injects orals and i gota liver test while 3 weeks into dianabol and winstrol dbol30 a day winny 45 and i was perfectly fine like not even slightly elevated, ive never taken a support supp in my life, just my 2 cents
    Quote Originally Posted by Senka View Post
    I have seen kids buy random superdrol clones and other ph's and just pop them for 8 weeks straight with no PCT afterwards. They're fine now, but who knows what kind of unseen problems will arise down the road. Just like all the bodybuilders from the 70's having their issues now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Husker89
    FOR the record i have ran 10 cycles with injects orals and i gota liver test while 3 weeks into dianabol and winstrol dbol30 a day winny 45 and i was perfectly fine like not even slightly elevated, ive never taken a support supp in my life, just my 2 cents
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    I always use support on an oral. The only 3 I really would consider "real" support towards liver protection are UDCA, TUDCA, and Sam-e.


    However, I will say that often times immediate effects are not going to be seen. For instance, when I was 19 a dermatologist put me on accutane for a year. Knowing what I know now, I don't think I'd do it again, even though not having acne is awesome. But damn is that a tough medication on your liver. Interestingly enough, the doctor didn't tell me to do anything besides take it and "avoid bodybuilding supplements...no whey protein or multivitamins" (wtf lol). No liver support to speak of. Yet, at the end of the year, when I had my last blood levels taken, but liver lipids/numbers were actually better than when I started. Long term damage? Have yet to see...
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    I push myself to limits everyday i train tbh, visited my mum yesterday and she said i looked a bit bigger, she doesnt know about the steroids
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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenEarth View Post
    I always use support on an oral. The only 3 I really would consider "real" support towards liver protection are UDCA, TUDCA, and Sam-e.


    However, I will say that often times immediate effects are not going to be seen. For instance, when I was 19 a dermatologist put me on accutane for a year. Knowing what I know now, I don't think I'd do it again, even though not having acne is awesome. But damn is that a tough medication on your liver. Interestingly enough, the doctor didn't tell me to do anything besides take it and "avoid bodybuilding supplements...no whey protein or multivitamins" (wtf lol). No liver support to speak of. Yet, at the end of the year, when I had my last blood levels taken, but liver lipids/numbers were actually better than when I started. Long term damage? Have yet to see...
    oral accutane = Poison.....topical accutane = godsend
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    Quote Originally Posted by WARBIRDWS6

    oral accutane = Poison.....topical accutane = godsend
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    Quote Originally Posted by WARBIRDWS6 View Post
    oral accutane = Poison.....topical accutane = godsend
    Well where the hell were you when I was 19? lol
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    I push myself to limits everyday i train tbh, visited my mum yesterday and she said i looked a bit bigger, she doesnt know about the steroids
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    Quote Originally Posted by howwedo107 View Post
    Doxycycline>accutane all day homie
    Quote Originally Posted by GreenEarth View Post
    Well where the hell were you when I was 19? lol
    I haven't needed it in a long time, but whenever test or whatever caused me to get acne, the isotretinoin gel/accutane gel worked well. but I never had any severe problem with acne to be honest. I just knew from researching that accutane was bad, even back then, so I found a way around oral administration....I always find a damn way ....
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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenEarth
    I always use support on an oral. The only 3 I really would consider "real" support towards liver protection are UDCA, TUDCA, and Sam-e.

    However, I will say that often times immediate effects are not going to be seen. For instance, when I was 19 a dermatologist put me on accutane for a year. Knowing what I know now, I don't think I'd do it again, even though not having acne is awesome. But damn is that a tough medication on your liver. Interestingly enough, the doctor didn't tell me to do anything besides take it and "avoid bodybuilding supplements...no whey protein or multivitamins" (wtf lol). No liver support to speak of. Yet, at the end of the year, when I had my last blood levels taken, but liver lipids/numbers were actually better than when I started. Long term damage? Have yet to see...
    Dude! Same here! I got regular bloods done as a teenager but he never once mentioned/prescribed me a Liver support... I've had recent bloods as an adult and everything is good to go. But still no support supps while accutane is crazy as I've heard it's pretty MF harsh
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    Will a lipid panel be enough to asses how my liver is functioning on sd. I have only got a hormon panel before. What do I need to get?
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    You need to get LFT done. Have them draw a red , purple and a Green top tube. That'll get CBC , chem, and all your LFT and lipids. Here's mine I had drawn tonight after a 20/20-30/30/30 SD cycle. Liver took a beating.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post
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    are there any un-methylated pro hormones worth a dam?
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    Quote Originally Posted by onthemove View Post
    are there any un-methylated pro hormones worth a dam?
    Tren and stano are great. Max LMG is solid, too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeinks View Post
    You need to get LFT done. Have them draw a red , purple and a Green top tube. That'll get CBC , chem, and all your LFT and lipids. Here's mine I had drawn tonight after a 20/20-30/30/30 SD cycle. Liver took a beating.
    AST is not too bad. ALT is not the worst I've seen after a cycle either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DonnyG View Post
    Tren and stano are great. Max LMG is solid, too.
    really? what is their ingredient?
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    MAX Lmg have sides?
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    Quote Originally Posted by onthemove View Post
    MAX Lmg have sides?
    Max LMG is a progestin, so gyno is a major risk. Same with Tren. I'd run either Max LMG or Tren alongside Stanodrol. You can use Trenazone cream with 800mg-1g of Stano as a test base. That would be a great cycle.
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    how long until you saw results like 3 months

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    Quote Originally Posted by DonnyG View Post
    Max LMG is a progestin, so gyno is a major risk. Same with Tren. I'd run either Max LMG or Tren alongside Stanodrol. You can use Trenazone cream with 800mg-1g of Stano as a test base. That would be a great cycle.
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