Winstrol and Anavar
- 10-26-2004, 11:53 PM
Winstrol and Anavar
Winstrol is a moderate, pure anabolic. Anavar is a moderate, pure androgen. If you were to stack these two along with responsible use, wouldn't this give you the same effect as what is commonly refered to as a conventional cycle, while lowering the risk of natural test shutdown?
(Forgive me if this is a reoccuring topic, I couldn't find this topic anywhere)
- 10-26-2004, 11:58 PM
There will be no "lowering the risk of natural test shutdown"; HPTA suppression will occur.
- 10-27-2004, 12:00 AM
Originally Posted by size
Everything I'm reading says that both will not cause shutdown of natty test, why would the combination of them shut it down?
10-27-2004, 12:04 AM
Your readings are incorrect, anavar alone will cause HPTA suppression.Originally Posted by arf
10-27-2004, 12:05 AM
HTPA won't shut down off of Winni though, will it?!
(I need to check my sources again, it sounds like)
10-27-2004, 12:15 AM
Yes you do. All AAS will shut you down some just take longer then others.Originally Posted by arf
10-27-2004, 12:20 AM
I'm not planning on running a long cycle... maybe 3 weeks. I want to reduce HTPA shutdown to a minimum. a short cycle with responsible use and pct wouldn't cause a significant HTPA shutdown, am I wrong?
10-27-2004, 12:22 AM
3 weeks can shut you down. Sorry.
10-27-2004, 01:11 AM
I think you're asking the wrong question. I think you really want to know if this combo will still result in the same level of shutdown you'd get from taking either product separately.
10-27-2004, 01:14 AM
Originally Posted by rrgg
Actually, yeah, I'm just heavily retarded.
11-07-2004, 03:26 PM
11-07-2004, 07:09 PM
There are studies of only 2.5mg anavar shutting you down.. Why even bother if you don't wanna get shut down, or only run it for 3 weeks? If your PCT and diet/training are together, shut-down isn't too big a deal..
11-07-2004, 08:13 PM
Well, consider this. I know Big Cat and I also moderate at that board. Those profiles were written over 3 years ago and have some mistakes. In general, they are excellent profiles but a few errors are present. Anavar not suppressing hpta is one of them. It makes no sense why you want to continue to argue this point. I have posted clinical trials showing suppression from anavar.Originally Posted by arf
11-07-2004, 08:35 PM
If you are a Mod over there; why not provide corrected information and make note that these articles are faulty?Originally Posted by size
You have? Where?Originally Posted by size
11-07-2004, 08:39 PM
arf, i dont think the guy was blowing up on you. you know what i mean?
11-07-2004, 08:48 PM
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I have seen this over and over again. Oral only cycles is one subject in itself, but as far as suppression is concerned: ANY AS compound will supress you at some point, to some degree. I have seen Size's posts, posts from other regarding anavar, posts regarding winny, etc.
My advice: do not look to "lessen" or "reduce" HPTA shutdown when considering AS cycles, look to how to properly manage it with PCT choices and such (Nolva, clomid, HCG, whatever).
11-07-2004, 08:55 PM
I'm tracking with you guys... I understand where you are coming from. My name is Kroms_laugh over at bb.com...
Here's my question:
If I recover from THIS will I be able to do AS or PH without permanently damaging my HTPA?
Don't read the whole thing, 90% of it is worthless... just ready my posts.
11-07-2004, 11:30 PM
Personally I would not chance it till I knew for sure I had everything working correctly..
11-08-2004, 10:09 AM
hmm, I didn't think Anavar was that high on the androgen side.
Either way, no matter what aas, always run your PCT.
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