Not to be an ******* but both look pretty ****ty to me. Epi for 4 weeks is pretty much useless bc u wont really see any gains until week 3. Im assuming your referring to trenavar, in which case u would need to up the dose by a lot. Same with the epi as well. I would do anywhere from 40-60mg. 60 was my sweet spot. As for both cycles, extend them to 6-8 weeks. Most people dont like being on orals for that long, but i find it to be good. Good luck and have fun!
Why not stack epi with stano. It's non methylated and I'm thinking it would be close to protomax in effect.
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protomax, while supposedly mild is a methyl. so if you go that route you will be stacking two methyls. i gained 20 lbs on 40mg a day of epi but lost all of it in the months after. i'm not a big fan of it myself. i felt worse on 40mg a day of epi than i do on 30mg of m1t. i haven't tried trenavar and probably never will because imo it would take high doses to get a decent anabolic response which isn't financially sound. same thing with hdrol. cost too much to run a decent cycle. personally, i'd run a low dose of superdrol. most of the sides from the harsher stuff is doses dependent.
Help with the doses for epi+stano
You can kick up Stano to 1g if you aren't feeling it, I'm gonna be running it at 600 all the way through for six weeks. I'm 30lbs lighter than you, though.
Okay I'll look into that for my next cycle thanks for the reply