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    First Injectable cycle!!!!!!!!!


    My upcoming cycle plan is to run test p for about 60 days. I am going to inject eod at 120 MG each shot. I want to stack it but i am not sure what i want to stack it with yet. Here are my 4 choices

    1. The test p with anavar for all 60 days at 50Mg ED(keep in mind i have ran 2 var cycles in the past year)

    2. The test p with injectable winny at around 350- 400 Mg per week all 60 days.

    3. The test p with anavar for the first 30 days at 50mg and oral winny for the last 50 days at 50mg ED.

    4. The test p with oral winny all 60 days at 50Mg ED.

    What do you guys think would be the best cycle to run or do you guys have any different ideas?


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    I have ran 2 cycles in my life both were anavar only cycle at 50 Mg ED. First cycle was 45 days my last cycle was 60 days.

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    Also I forgot to add the goal of my cycle is to get as strong as possible on my bench press and to add about 15 lbs of muscle and lose some body fat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by barry2313
    Also I forgot to add the goal of my cycle is to get as strong as possible on my bench press and to add about 15 lbs of muscle and lose some body fat.
    If you're main goal is strength, I would look at Dbol or Deca.
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    If you want strength why don't you get dbol?
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    Quote Originally Posted by howwedo107
    If you want strength why don't you get dbol?
    Exactly. Ask any powerlifter. Dbol is ****ing king!
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    But with the dbol would I keep my strength gains after the cycle I don't just want to be strong during the cycle I want to be strong after the cycle
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    Also I want the least amount of water weight as possible
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    Quote Originally Posted by barry2313
    But with the dbol would I keep my strength gains after the cycle I don't just want to be strong during the cycle I want to be strong after the cycle
    No steroid makes you have the same super human strength as you do when your on and off of it
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    Also I want the least amount of water weight as possible
    That's what's adex is for or just look into sdrol then for a kick start
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    Quote Originally Posted by barry2313 View Post
    Also I want the least amount of water weight as possible
    Then stack the test with Epistane.
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    Quote Originally Posted by howwedo107
    No steroid makes you have the same super human strength as you do when your on and off of it

    That's what's adex is for or just look into sdrol then for a kick start
    I've made better strength gains off SD than Dbol, but the back pumps weren't worth it. Too brutal.
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    Just what would u guys rather do with the choices I put up there
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    But what would you guys rather do with the choices I put up
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    Quote Originally Posted by barry2313
    Just what would u guys rather do with the choices I put up there
    Honestly? None of them. I wouldn't use those stacks for strength gains.
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    just do the test and anavar...winny will not make you stronger, more for vascularity/cutting...although you can use it any which way in reality...
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    But will it matter that I already have done a lot of var
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    Quote Originally Posted by barry2313 View Post
    But will it matter that I already have done a lot of var
    well you demanded that we choose from the cycles stated above....so we don't have much choice do we? dbol would be better as the guys mentioned already, with armidex, or the SD they also mentioned....but you said the choose from the cycles above only, and winny is not conducive to your goals...anavar and test are...I don't think there are any diminishing returns running several anavar cycles so close together? but yeah, always a good idea to use different things and go back to something after a long break from it. Or just do the test alone if you don't want to run the anavar again and do not want to acquire any new stuff to stack with it....
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    Var at no less than 100 mgs. Quit being cheap. Throw some npp in. If you really want strength skip the thoughts of crappy superdrol and get some anadrol or dbol. AI will keep bloat to an absolute minimum. I used both recently and what an insane experience that was.
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    Why do you want to use only those stacks? You have something against Dbol and SD?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruiser76 View Post
    Why do you want to use only those stacks? You have something against Dbol and SD?
    he might be afraid of the bloat? judging by his posts, but he can mitigate that with an AI......
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    Dbolllllllll! It's very delicious!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigShadow
    Dbolllllllll! It's very delicious!
    Breakfast of champions! **** Wheaties!
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    shyt, I'd be LOOKIN' for reasons to take dbol....not trying to exclude it LOL ....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruiser76

    Breakfast of champions! **** Wheaties!
    (dbol) it's my favorite meal right along side a 10 ounce steak and fries and couple slices of pizza!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigShadow

    (dbol) it's my favorite meal right along side a 10 ounce steak and fries and couple slices of pizza!!!
    Hahaha. I had Anadrol, steak and pizza for breakfast today! Lol. I'm bridging into my Dbol Wednesday. Can't wait... been a while.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruiser76

    Hahaha. I had Anadrol, steak and pizza for breakfast today! Lol. I'm bridging into my Dbol Wednesday. Can't wait... been a while.
    So your going from a extra large pizza with all the goodies to a large meat lovers pizza? Got it!!! Makes my mouth water just thinking about it!
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    dominos philly steak and cheese pizza....double win pizza and lots of steak.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by WARBIRDWS6
    dominos philly steak and cheese pizza....double win pizza and lots of steak.....
    One of my favs!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruiser76 View Post
    One of my favs!
    I try and get it whenever I can....but it seems weird since its not a standard pizza, you go to the pizza place you expect red sauce, mozzarella cheese with some pepperoni and sausage....but you get no sauce with provolone/american cheese with steak LOL.... seems like you are wasting your weekly pizza experience or something....
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    Quote Originally Posted by WARBIRDWS6

    I try and get it whenever I can....but it seems weird since its not a standard pizza, you go to the pizza place you expect red sauce, mozzarella cheese with some pepperoni and sausage....but you get no sauce with provolone/american cheese with steak LOL.... seems like you are wasting your weekly pizza experience or something....
    Yeah true. But around here it's still the closest thing to a decent Philly! Lol. If I have to have it in pizza form, I will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WARBIRDWS6

    I try and get it whenever I can....but it seems weird since its not a standard pizza, you go to the pizza place you expect red sauce, mozzarella cheese with some pepperoni and sausage....but you get no sauce with provolone/american cheese with steak LOL.... seems like you are wasting your weekly pizza experience or something....
    Weekly?! i wish i could eat pizza weekly. Last time i did that i weighed 300 lbs...it wasnt pretty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by superbeast668

    Weekly?! i wish i could eat pizza weekly. Last time i did that i weighed 300 lbs...it wasnt pretty.
    Every week I down a large pizza 1840 calories. I can eat the whole thing in 3-4 hours. Which reminds me I think I shall indulge tonight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigShadow

    Every week I down a large pizza 1840 calories. I can eat the whole thing in 3-4 hours. Which reminds me I think I shall indulge tonight.
    Damn... i want a large pizza.
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    Yeah once a week for me, and if I am good the rest of the week....I am fine...usually fills me up pretty good and I don't eat too much else that day...but i am usually going low low carb during the other 6 days and low calorie as well...I think the body just soaks up those calories and carbs that one cheat day a week. no harm if you ask me, actually should be beneficial. But you bastards ruined it for me, i was supposed to be good today and eat pork tenderloin with rice and maybe some chicken wings with my usual proteins and aminos...and do pizza tomorrow....but now I feel the urge to get the damn philly steak pizza .......up in Boston we have an awesome steak and cheese place, better than philly dammit! down here in FL? yeah, the pizza is the best option...the other places either suck or are average LMFAO....
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    Quote Originally Posted by WARBIRDWS6
    Yeah once a week for me, and if I am good the rest of the week....I am fine...usually fills me up pretty good and I don't eat too much else that day...but i am usually going low low carb during the other 6 days and low calorie as well...I think the body just soaks up those calories and carbs that one cheat day a week. no harm if you ask me, actually should be beneficial. But you bastards ruined it for me, i was supposed to be good today and eat pork tenderloin with rice and maybe some chicken wings with my usual proteins and aminos...and do pizza tomorrow....but now I feel the urge to get the damn philly steak pizza .......up in Boston we have an awesome steak and cheese place, better than philly dammit! down here in FL? yeah, the pizza is the best option...the other places either suck or are average LMFAO....
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    LMFAO!
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    Btw... I just had Pop Tarts too.
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    I was supposed to be low carb and calorie yesterday, but I fell off the wagon right before bed and ate 3 mini-whoopie pies and a couple cups of milk ....that after I was good and ate 8 oz of filet mignon w/o anything else for the final meal....these goddamn GDA's and ALA and anabeta are killing me man....and you too are killing me with the pizza talk LOL....
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    Quote Originally Posted by WARBIRDWS6
    I was supposed to be low carb and calorie yesterday, but I fell off the wagon right before bed and ate 3 mini-whoopie pies and a couple cups of milk ....that after I was good and ate 8 oz of filet mignon w/o anything else for the final meal....these goddamn GDA's and ALA and anabeta are killing me man....and you too are killing me with the pizza talk LOL....
    Just for you warbirds!


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    Quote Originally Posted by BigShadow

    Just for you warbirds!

    <img src="http://anabolicminds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=62 200"/>
    Yeah! Lol
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    hahaha....I already snuck out at about 6PM and ate a large deep dish dominos philly steak pizza ....well half of one, that deep dish is a beast on the carbs! kicked my ass! I took 2 slinsane and 2 anabeta and 300mg of Na-Rala before eating though! LMFAO

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