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    Battling M-1-T sides.


    Hi everyone,

    I know many of you dislike M-1-T and will have a lot to say about not doing it,but i like it and react well to it apart from the extreme lethargy,so the question i have is what can i use to combat this?Apart from stimulants.

    I know you can take 4-diol but that`s more or less impossible to get hold of,and i know you can use any unmethylated DHT based prohormone like Stanodrol,but what i`m really interested in is possibly using a SARM...Will a SARM be good for M-1-T sides? And has anyone run a SARM with M-1-T?

    All feedback thats constructive is welcome,thanks guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by michael75
    Hi everyone,

    I know many of you dislike M-1-T and will have a lot to say about not doing it,but i like it and react well to it apart from the extreme lethargy,so the question i have is what can i use to combat this?Apart from stimulants.

    I know you can take 4-diol but that`s more or less impossible to get hold of,and i know you can use any unmethylated DHT based prohormone like Stanodrol,but what i`m really interested in is possibly using a SARM...Will a SARM be good for M-1-T sides? And has anyone run a SARM with M-1-T?

    All feedback thats constructive is welcome,thanks guys.

    Mike.
    I wouldn't doubt that you're probably one of the first people to use a SARM with M1T. I was unaware that SARMs have anti-lethargy properties.
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    No I don't think that will help, I would get some tne. U have to inject twice a day but that would be the best to combat sides. U could use prop. But most m1t cycle are only 3-4 weeks. I'm planning on using m1t and testp top in the spring. With a few other things on the end of the cycle
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    Just be simple and run stano.

    Or you could go with TNE as listed above. Although since its kinda expensive, just inject once a day for preworkout.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReyMan View Post
    Just be simple and run stano.

    Or you could go with TNE as listed above. Although since its kinda expensive, just inject once a day for preworkout.
    Yap Stano is the option i was going to go for,just wanted to see if Ostarine would be better to run with the M-1-T,my thinking was that Ostarine run solo seems to be completely androgenic which would compensate for M-1-T which is very anabolic,and also that from logs that i`ve read Osta gives a sense of well being and and increases stamina,all which would be good for M-1-T sides.

    But i`m not sure if they would compete with each other,i don`t think they would as they seem to hit different receptors at different rates.
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    Quote Originally Posted by michael75

    Yap Stano is the option i was going to go for,just wanted to see if Ostarine would be better to run with the M-1-T,my thinking was that Ostarine run solo seems to be completely androgenic which would compensate for M-1-T which is very anabolic,and also that from logs that i`ve read Osta gives a sense of well being and and increases stamina,all which would be good for M-1-T sides.

    But i`m not sure if they would compete with each other,i don`t think they would as they seem to hit different receptors at different rates.
    Ostra is Anabolic. S4 is the androgenic ....commen mistake.
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    Stano plus m1t would be a pro estrogen combo(correct me if I'm wrong) ill look up more info when I get home.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pyrobatt
    Stano plus m1t would be a pro estrogen combo(correct me if I'm wrong) ill look up more info when I get home.
    Dht derivatives help combat estro sides.
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    It may sound childish but what kind of pct are you gonna do after it if it requires any
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    you ever run it with actual test. thats my plan, i think the test would help keep sides under control
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1test
    It may sound childish but what kind of pct are you gonna do after it if it requires any
    Should've added a methyl attachment to your username lolololol
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReyMan View Post
    Should've added a methyl attachment to your username lolololol
    So they are both anabolic,which i believe may cause them to compete with each other...I thought that a lot of M-1-T sides are due to it be mostly anabolic and less androgenic,i think it shows that i still have a lot to learn,so i shall keep researching and trying to find out.

    I`m toying with the idea of just running an Ostarine cycle now for about 60 days at 17.5 mg a day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pyrobatt View Post
    Stano plus m1t would be a pro estrogen combo(correct me if I'm wrong) ill look up more info when I get home.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReyMan

    Should've added a methyl attachment to your username lolololol
    Aha
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    I will be running Tamoxifen citrate at 20/20/10/10 for PCT and throwing in some DAA,this should get things moving in the right direction. Ive opted for Pro-Stano which is DHT based to combat sides at 600mg ed for 6 weeks,the M-1-T will be at 15mg and maybe upto 30mg ed for 4 weeks depending on sides,i shall also split the dose as i believe that this is better for your liver than it trying to process a large dose in one go.

    I`ve scrapped the idea of running Osta all together,i see some run it in PCT but ive seen that it can be suppressive and i dont want to take the risk,i want my natural production up and running as soon as possible,that is unless someone can persuade me with a good argument for running it.
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