Gear to increase libido, Proviron or Andriol?
- 10-22-2004, 08:59 PM
Gear to increase libido, Proviron or Andriol?
Which is better at increasing libido in the very short term Proviron(Mesterolone, 25mg tabs) or Andriol(Testosterone, 40mg tabs)? I'm not using it for HRT or BB, but for a 1-day or weekend libido boost. Daily dosages? I appreciate any feedback and advice.
- 10-22-2004, 10:21 PM
- 10-22-2004, 10:45 PM
Originally Posted by serengo
10-23-2004, 12:33 AM
10-23-2004, 12:44 AM
Thanks size. Do you have a daily dosage for me? 25mgX2/day?
Unfortunately, alcohol does not make me horny just dizzy.
Last edited by size; 10-23-2004 at 01:47 AM.
10-23-2004, 01:48 AM
50-100mg should work. There is debate the amount of influence that proviron has on HPTA.Originally Posted by lancelot
10-23-2004, 02:39 AM
thanks, I'll try that dosage. I plan on using it 1-2X/month so i'm sure HPTA will not be affected.Originally Posted by size
One last question: why proviron/Mesterolone over test? Is it well accepted in the BB community that mesterolone is better at raising libido over test?
10-23-2004, 08:56 AM
You have cialis and viagra and you STILL want more? I think you should see a doctor Bro, something is definately wrong if you need more at your age.
10-23-2004, 01:07 PM
Cialis and Viagra are for limp dick/erectile dysfunction.Originally Posted by serengo
He is asking about drugs to increase LIBIDO. Libido equals desire for sex. You can have the ability to get erections without having the desire to get erections. (And vice versa.)
Most ED is caused by atherosclerosis of the penile arteries, and usually affects older men.
Lack of libido is usually caused by low testosterone or these days, use of SSRI type anti-depressants, which also commonly cause a third sexual malady, anorgasmia, or inability to ejaculate.
Most healthy young men can't comprehend the idea of lack of libido, (since they are horny most all of the time) hence the misunderstanding...
10-23-2004, 04:33 PM
I understand completely. I am 37 and 12.5mg of cialis and I am a walking hardon all weekend. I don't see how you can have a desire problem in that state. If you mean you take cialis and/or viagra and get the physical erection with no motivation or desire for sex, I say you have a serious mental or physical problem that needs to be adressed by a doc.Originally Posted by Greenguy
Lance already said he doesn't have a lack of LIBIDO, he just wants more, recreationally. It just doesn't seem to make sense that he should take AAS for this. Bro, your dick will sore, raw and bleeding and you will still be horny, I guess if that's what you're after, go for it.
10-23-2004, 06:00 PM
If you think ED and lack of libido are the same thing, you are wrong. Ask someone who has gone to medical school.Originally Posted by serengo
10-23-2004, 07:38 PM
I'm not looking for a pissing match, I know they aren't the same. Lance has neither. THAT is the point. I am talking about someone who does not have ED or lack of libido. He's just looking for a boost. I do not think he'll get much from AAS on top of cialis, he already pointed out that he's a "horny young buck". So it's really pointless to take AAS for a weekend fling. That is what I am saying. I should have said that in the first place instead of being flippant about it, my bad.
10-24-2004, 01:13 PM
Sorry, sometimes I can be a pompous ass. Most MDs consider ED a pumbing problem (refer you to a to urolologist) and libido problems to be psychological or hormonal. I was merely responding to the question in the title of his thread: "Gear to increase libido, proviron or andriol?" And his first post:Originally Posted by serengo
"Which is better at increasing libido in the very short term Proviron(Mesterolone, 25mg tabs) or Andriol(Testosterone, 40mg tabs)? I'm not using it for HRT or BB, but for a 1-day or weekend libido boost. Daily dosages? I appreciate any feedback and advice."
Later he said he had cialis & viagra and had no "libido problems" but was looking for a "libido boost". I was merely trying to point out that testosterone is good for libido (ie desire).
I have had all three of the problems I mentioned before and have consulted with several doctors about them and read up on all current research and solutions to said problems, and overcome them.
I have no experience with Proviron or Andriol, but If I wanted to be a super stud for the weekend, I would start pinning test prop 100mg/day about 3 or 4 days ahead, and start cialis on Thursday or Friday.
Of course a healthy diet, plenty of fluids, and plenty of sleep.
10-24-2004, 01:59 PM
10-24-2004, 02:02 PM
Originally Posted by Greenguy
does that mean thur = day 4 and cialis is also day 4 so on thurs you took both same day or did you wait anytime in btw b4 taking the cialis
10-24-2004, 06:44 PM
I know some don't think tribulus affects LH, but it does seem to really affect libido. I used 1000mg ED from beyond-a-century.com (the more expensive more potent of 2 varieties they sell). Before you flame me, I wasn't really looking for this libido side effect in the first place. It was pretty noticable though, to the point that it was really distracting at times.
10-24-2004, 07:19 PM
I'm going to keep this civil for now, but i have no patients for ignorant, judgemental and close-minded people.Originally Posted by serengo
I'm not looking for your dam opinion why i choose to increase my libido with AAS. Please get off my thread if you can't help with the original queston.
Why do you use AAS? are you low on natural androgens? What, it's ok to use it to build muscles, but not for libido? says ****ing who?
10-24-2004, 09:40 PM
10-25-2004, 09:51 AM
Well, Test Prop takes about 24 hours to raise your level, and then stays up for about 2 days. Everybody is different so some may need more or less.Originally Posted by anibal
Cialis I have not used, only viagra, but I have heard that it really kick in on the day after you take it, and lasts a couple of days.
So let's say you were going to start you orgy on Friday night, I would start the test prop on Mon or Tues, do 100 to 150mg per day with last shot thurs pm, and pop you cialis thurs pm also.
Friday night, you should be primed and ready for action!
If you had HCG, you could substitute that for the test. Also if you had test suspension you could just take it friday AM, but you would need more on Sat, as it goes thru your system quickly.
I don't think you would need any PCT for this, assuming your HPTA was healthy (ie already done PCT and recovered from any past cycle). But that may differ for different people.
Hope this is helpful,
10-25-2004, 04:39 PM
Nothing has ever worked for libido (for me) like 500IU HCG, then 500IU the day after the next. Not only did libido increase dramatically, erection frequency, duration, and quality increased, as did ejaculatory volume.
Although theoretically, test should have the same effect, unless HCG does something in addition to increasing test levels.
10-25-2004, 08:29 PM
whats hcg is that something available at any food store or something i need to find somewhere else and when you say the day after the next does that mean if the orgie is friday night you would take it on wed then skip thurday and take on friday same day of orgie again. and then stop or every other day for a while. is that something that needs to be injected or does it come as in oral foem alsoOriginally Posted by jrkarp
10-25-2004, 10:07 PM
it's a prescription drug here. goes by names such as pregnyl, or others. good luck finding it though. i'd just stick with the test-prop if you can find it.
10-25-2004, 11:10 PM
10-25-2004, 11:26 PM
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