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Gear to increase libido, Proviron or Andriol?

  1.  10-22-2004  07:59 PM
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    Gear to increase libido, Proviron or Andriol?


    Which is better at increasing libido in the very short term Proviron(Mesterolone, 25mg tabs) or Andriol(Testosterone, 40mg tabs)? I'm not using it for HRT or BB, but for a 1-day or weekend libido boost. Daily dosages? I appreciate any feedback and advice.



  2.  10-22-2004  09:21 PM
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    Get some cialis and you will be a freakin porn star for the weekend!

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    Originally Posted by serengo
    Get some cialis and you will be a freakin porn star for the weekend!
    I already have cialis and viagra. I don't have ED or libido problems. I'm using them recreationally as a horny young buck. C+V is for ED. I'm looking for a libido boost for those weekend binges. anyone else?

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    Proviron would be the better of the two.

    have you tried tequila?

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    Thanks size. Do you have a daily dosage for me? 25mgX2/day?

    Unfortunately, alcohol does not make me horny just dizzy.
    Last edited by size; 10-23-2004 at 12:47 AM.

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    Originally Posted by lancelot
    Thanks size. Do you have a daily dosage for me? 25mgX2/day?
    50-100mg should work. There is debate the amount of influence that proviron has on HPTA.

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    Originally Posted by size
    50-100mg should work. There is debate the amount of influence that proviron has on HPTA.
    thanks, I'll try that dosage. I plan on using it 1-2X/month so i'm sure HPTA will not be affected.

    One last question: why proviron/Mesterolone over test? Is it well accepted in the BB community that mesterolone is better at raising libido over test?

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    You have cialis and viagra and you STILL want more? I think you should see a doctor Bro, something is definately wrong if you need more at your age.

  9.  10-23-2004  12:07 PM
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    Originally Posted by serengo
    You have cialis and viagra and you STILL want more? I think you should see a doctor Bro, something is definately wrong if you need more at your age.
    Cialis and Viagra are for limp dick/erectile dysfunction.

    He is asking about drugs to increase LIBIDO. Libido equals desire for sex. You can have the ability to get erections without having the desire to get erections. (And vice versa.)

    Most ED is caused by atherosclerosis of the penile arteries, and usually affects older men.

    Lack of libido is usually caused by low testosterone or these days, use of SSRI type anti-depressants, which also commonly cause a third sexual malady, anorgasmia, or inability to ejaculate.

    Most healthy young men can't comprehend the idea of lack of libido, (since they are horny most all of the time) hence the misunderstanding...

  10.  10-23-2004  03:33 PM
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    Originally Posted by Greenguy
    Cialis and Viagra are for limp dick/erectile dysfunction.

    He is asking about drugs to increase LIBIDO. Libido equals desire for sex. You can have the ability to get erections without having the desire to get erections. (And vice versa.)

    Most ED is caused by atherosclerosis of the penile arteries, and usually affects older men.

    Lack of libido is usually caused by low testosterone or these days, use of SSRI type anti-depressants, which also commonly cause a third sexual malady, anorgasmia, or inability to ejaculate.

    Most healthy young men can't comprehend the idea of lack of libido, (since they are horny most all of the time) hence the misunderstanding...
    I understand completely. I am 37 and 12.5mg of cialis and I am a walking hardon all weekend. I don't see how you can have a desire problem in that state. If you mean you take cialis and/or viagra and get the physical erection with no motivation or desire for sex, I say you have a serious mental or physical problem that needs to be adressed by a doc.

    Lance already said he doesn't have a lack of LIBIDO, he just wants more, recreationally. It just doesn't seem to make sense that he should take AAS for this. Bro, your dick will sore, raw and bleeding and you will still be horny, I guess if that's what you're after, go for it.

  11.  10-23-2004  05:00 PM
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    Originally Posted by serengo
    I understand completely. I am 37 and 12.5mg of cialis and I am a walking hardon all weekend. I don't see how you can have a desire problem in that state. If you mean you take cialis and/or viagra and get the physical erection with no motivation or desire for sex, I say you have a serious mental or physical problem that needs to be adressed by a doc.

    Lance already said he doesn't have a lack of LIBIDO, he just wants more, recreationally. It just doesn't seem to make sense that he should take AAS for this. Bro, your dick will sore, raw and bleeding and you will still be horny, I guess if that's what you're after, go for it.
    If you think ED and lack of libido are the same thing, you are wrong. Ask someone who has gone to medical school.

  12.  10-23-2004  06:38 PM
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    I'm not looking for a pissing match, I know they aren't the same. Lance has neither. THAT is the point. I am talking about someone who does not have ED or lack of libido. He's just looking for a boost. I do not think he'll get much from AAS on top of cialis, he already pointed out that he's a "horny young buck". So it's really pointless to take AAS for a weekend fling. That is what I am saying. I should have said that in the first place instead of being flippant about it, my bad.

  13.  10-24-2004  12:13 PM
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    Originally Posted by serengo
    I'm not looking for a pissing match, I know they aren't the same. Lance has neither. THAT is the point. I am talking about someone who does not have ED or lack of libido. He's just looking for a boost. I do not think he'll get much from AAS on top of cialis, he already pointed out that he's a "horny young buck". So it's really pointless to take AAS for a weekend fling. That is what I am saying. I should have said that in the first place instead of being flippant about it, my bad.
    Sorry, sometimes I can be a pompous ass. Most MDs consider ED a pumbing problem (refer you to a to urolologist) and libido problems to be psychological or hormonal. I was merely responding to the question in the title of his thread: "Gear to increase libido, proviron or andriol?" And his first post:

    "Which is better at increasing libido in the very short term Proviron(Mesterolone, 25mg tabs) or Andriol(Testosterone, 40mg tabs)? I'm not using it for HRT or BB, but for a 1-day or weekend libido boost. Daily dosages? I appreciate any feedback and advice."

    Later he said he had cialis & viagra and had no "libido problems" but was looking for a "libido boost". I was merely trying to point out that testosterone is good for libido (ie desire).

    I have had all three of the problems I mentioned before and have consulted with several doctors about them and read up on all current research and solutions to said problems, and overcome them.

    I have no experience with Proviron or Andriol, but If I wanted to be a super stud for the weekend, I would start pinning test prop 100mg/day about 3 or 4 days ahead, and start cialis on Thursday or Friday.

    Of course a healthy diet, plenty of fluids, and plenty of sleep.

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    when you said 4 days does that mean thur = day 4 so your on the test and cialis that same day

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    Originally Posted by Greenguy
    Sorry, sometimes I can be a pompous ass. Most MDs consider ED a pumbing problem (refer you to a to urolologist) and libido problems to be psychological or hormonal. I was merely responding to the question in the title of his thread: "Gear to increase libido, proviron or andriol?" And his first post:

    "Which is better at increasing libido in the very short term Proviron(Mesterolone, 25mg tabs) or Andriol(Testosterone, 40mg tabs)? I'm not using it for HRT or BB, but for a 1-day or weekend libido boost. Daily dosages? I appreciate any feedback and advice."

    Later he said he had cialis & viagra and had no "libido problems" but was looking for a "libido boost". I was merely trying to point out that testosterone is good for libido (ie desire).

    I have had all three of the problems I mentioned before and have consulted with several doctors about them and read up on all current research and solutions to said problems, and overcome them.

    I have no experience with Proviron or Andriol, but If I wanted to be a super stud for the weekend, I would start pinning test prop 100mg/day about 3 or 4 days ahead, and start cialis on Thursday or Friday.

    Of course a healthy diet, plenty of fluids, and plenty of sleep.

    does that mean thur = day 4 and cialis is also day 4 so on thurs you took both same day or did you wait anytime in btw b4 taking the cialis

  16.  10-24-2004  05:44 PM
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    I know some don't think tribulus affects LH, but it does seem to really affect libido. I used 1000mg ED from beyond-a-century.com (the more expensive more potent of 2 varieties they sell). Before you flame me, I wasn't really looking for this libido side effect in the first place. It was pretty noticable though, to the point that it was really distracting at times.

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    Originally Posted by serengo
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    Lance already said he doesn't have a lack of LIBIDO, he just wants more, recreationally. It just doesn't seem to make sense that he should take AAS for this. Bro, your dick will sore, raw and bleeding and you will still be horny, I guess if that's what you're after, go for it.
    I'm going to keep this civil for now, but i have no patients for ignorant, judgemental and close-minded people.

    I'm not looking for your dam opinion why i choose to increase my libido with AAS. Please get off my thread if you can't help with the original queston.

    Why do you use AAS? are you low on natural androgens? What, it's ok to use it to build muscles, but not for libido? says ****ing who?

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    Originally Posted by size
    have you tried tequila?
    Does the trick for me, nothin like some Jose Cuervo...

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    Originally Posted by anibal
    when you said 4 days does that mean thur = day 4 so your on the test and cialis that same day
    Well, Test Prop takes about 24 hours to raise your level, and then stays up for about 2 days. Everybody is different so some may need more or less.

    Cialis I have not used, only viagra, but I have heard that it really kick in on the day after you take it, and lasts a couple of days.

    So let's say you were going to start you orgy on Friday night, I would start the test prop on Mon or Tues, do 100 to 150mg per day with last shot thurs pm, and pop you cialis thurs pm also.

    Friday night, you should be primed and ready for action!

    If you had HCG, you could substitute that for the test. Also if you had test suspension you could just take it friday AM, but you would need more on Sat, as it goes thru your system quickly.

    I don't think you would need any PCT for this, assuming your HPTA was healthy (ie already done PCT and recovered from any past cycle). But that may differ for different people.

    Hope this is helpful,

    Greenguy

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    Nothing has ever worked for libido (for me) like 500IU HCG, then 500IU the day after the next. Not only did libido increase dramatically, erection frequency, duration, and quality increased, as did ejaculatory volume.

    Although theoretically, test should have the same effect, unless HCG does something in addition to increasing test levels.

    /karp

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