So my suggested cycle
Test e 500mg weeks 1-12
Sd 10-20mg weeks 1-3or4 (u pick ur kicker)
Anvar 75-100mfweeks 8-14
UDCA 250
Adex if needed or starting week 2 at .25 Ed or eod( Celoraz has good openioms about this, so he can explain better, IMO if u kick with Sd it's better to be ahead of the sides do I'd start Adex from the beginning. But if u go crazy with the dex u can drop estro to low and u really need it to gain. So this should be tailored to u specific reactions.)
Pct starting week 15
Torem 120/90/60/30
Erase 0/0/3/3/2/1
Forged pct
Daa 3G per day
Or
Clomid 50/50/25/26
Raloxifene 60/60/60/30
Forged pct
Daa 3G
Erase is not nessasary if u use ralo. From my understanding, but I could be wrong.
Hopefully this is acceptable, sometimes when I'm jacked on caffeine I go crazy and post rediculos cycles. But Celoraz has good , ideas he is very informed.
IMO PH/ds are very safe and effective if used responsibly, but if u want more keepable ur gains run them with test.