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    Hey guys I just got back training for a few months after hernia surgery my question is I wanna get ripped as hell and gain some lean mass I'm Abit confused on what to use out of these

    Androhard and Androlean or hdrol or epistane which would be best for my goals really appreciate the help and votes

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    Epi/trenazone/pstanz would b sick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Stri8ed View Post
    Epi/trenazone/pstanz would b sick.
    This would be killer stack! What brand p stanz u suggest dr?
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    I'm running havoc(epi) and trenazone stack to try and lean out. so far its working great but diet is the most important part
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nate007

    This would be killer stack! What brand p stanz u suggest dr?
    Well CEL if u can find it. Or u can just do epi/trenavar that would b sick too.
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    ^ I was going to do trenavar but chose trenazone for the transdermal part. it's my 3rd cycle and 1st stack and was iffy about doing 2 orals but trenavar seems to be great from the reviews.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LITERaCOLA
    ^ I was going to do trenavar but chose trenazone for the transdermal part. it's my 3rd cycle and 1st stack and was iffy about doing 2 orals but trenavar seems to be great from the reviews.
    Yeah the liver toxicity from it isn't much.
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    ya thats what i read but there were more reviews on trenazone than trenavar as well. I honestly went with trenazone because it's weaker with less sides. I heard havoc was fantastic even on its own and trenazone was cheaper than trenavar at the time. my dog knocked over most of one of my bottle of trenazone when i was applying it, you think i should finish it out with trenavar now that i have to buy more anyways, or should i stick with trenazone? when i was doing my research 3 months ago there werent as many people using it as there are now
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    Yeah the liver toxicity from it isn't much.
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    Just finish with trenazone and u can run trenavar with something else for a later cycle. Its only 30 bucks now.
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    I know when i bought everything it was still 65..... ugh patience is a virtue right.
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    Just finish with trenazone and u can run trenavar with something else for a later cycle. Its only 30 bucks now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LITERaCOLA
    I know when i bought everything it was still 65..... ugh patience is a virtue right.
    Yeah I knew that price would go down drastically in time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Stri8ed View Post
    Well CEL if u can find it. Or u can just do epi/trenavar that would b sick too.
    this is what I was thinking of doing one day....have tons of IBE epi and 3 packs or so of trenavar isn't that costly....might be sides to be had though ....
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    Quote Originally Posted by WARBIRDWS6

    this is what I was thinking of doing one day....have tons of IBE epi and 3 packs or so of trenavar isn't that costly....might be sides to be had though ....
    Yeah idk if I'll ever try trenavar since I'm gonna b using actual tren for my next cut cycle.
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    after this i was debating just going to real gear as this cycle as me screaming at my wallet. going to try and find some test e
    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Stri8ed View Post
    Yeah idk if I'll ever try trenavar since I'm gonna b using actual tren for my next cut cycle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Stri8ed View Post
    Yeah idk if I'll ever try trenavar since I'm gonna b using actual tren for my next cut cycle.
    yeah if you can stand the sides on real tren? God bless you and that is the best route to take. I did the fina pellets sublingual once or twice, and did injectible twice....second go round was this double dosed STRONG stuff my friend made....he made it double dosed on purpose so that just in case it wasn't gonna come out underdosed...that shyt made me anxious and paranoid like a motherfuqer. felt like butterflies in your stomach 24/7 and all anxious, and things that were familiar to you would seem foreign, was looking at my dog like who the fuq is he? LMFAO.....bad experience that time, never touched it again....
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    Quote Originally Posted by LITERaCOLA View Post
    after this i was debating just going to real gear as this cycle as me screaming at my wallet. going to try and find some test e
    this shyt can get expensive....went 7 years w/o using much of anything other than protein and health supps....was really nice on my wallet, this last year? kicked my wallets ass
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    I know this cycle has costed me over 500 with everything so far. but thats including protein and what not but still.now i have to buy more trenazone and more protein in a few weeks.
    Quote Originally Posted by WARBIRDWS6 View Post
    this shyt can get expensive....went 7 years w/o using much of anything other than protein and health supps....was really nice on my wallet, this last year? kicked my wallets ass
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    Quote Originally Posted by LITERaCOLA View Post
    I know this cycle has costed me over 500 with everything so far. but thats including protein and what not but still.now i have to buy more trenazone and more protein in a few weeks.
    I have a partial vial of trenazone from my last cycle.....only used a few ml out of it, just not sure HOW MANY ml out of it. not sure if you are interested in it, but I figure to sell or trade it instead of it sitting there forever. I got an empty vial, so I guess I could weight the empty and compare to the full to see what the difference is .....
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    i'll pm you about it since we're not suppose tot alk about it in the forum
    Quote Originally Posted by WARBIRDWS6 View Post
    I have a partial vial of trenazone from my last cycle.....only used a few ml out of it, just not sure HOW MANY ml out of it. not sure if you are interested in it, but I figure to sell or trade it instead of it sitting there forever. I got an empty vial, so I guess I could weight the empty and compare to the full to see what the difference is .....
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    Quote Originally Posted by WARBIRDWS6

    yeah if you can stand the sides on real tren? God bless you and that is the best route to take. I did the fina pellets sublingual once or twice, and did injectible twice....second go round was this double dosed STRONG stuff my friend made....he made it double dosed on purpose so that just in case it wasn't gonna come out underdosed...that shyt made me anxious and paranoid like a motherfuqer. felt like butterflies in your stomach 24/7 and all anxious, and things that were familiar to you would seem foreign, was looking at my dog like who the fuq is he? LMFAO.....bad experience that time, never touched it again....
    I'm a crazy motherf*cker already, if I get any worse I'll b six feet under haha.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LITERaCOLA View Post
    i'll pm you about it since we're not suppose tot alk about it in the forum
    yeah, thats auction forum talk ... we won't get in trouble over it, but PM is better....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Stri8ed View Post
    I'm a crazy motherf*cker already, if I get any worse I'll b six feet under haha.
    depends on the individual pretty much....you probably won't see any of those type sides (maybe other shyt like sweating and insomnia LOL)....but I think it was dose related. that shyt was retarded ....not good for anxiety prone people to do that high of a Mg amount of tren.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gym4Life View Post
    I wanna get ripped as hell and gain some lean mass...
    Ultradrol would be perfect for your goals. Probably the only PH I'd currently consider using again on a test e cycle or running solo.
    RTR.
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    I take it from the products I listed epi is the winner for my goals so what should I stack with it I heard p stanz is weak so looks like I should stack Trenavar or trenazone with it then ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gym4Life
    I take it from the products I listed epi is the winner for my goals so what should I stack with it I heard p stanz is weak so looks like I should stack Trenavar or trenazone with it then ?
    Yeah trenazone or trenavar fur sure.
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    Ya i asked myself the exact same question few months back and when i googled what to stack with epi regardless of forum it was primarily trenazone or trenavar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LITERaCOLA
    Ya i asked myself the exact same question few months back and when i googled what to stack with epi regardless of forum it was primarily trenazone or trenavar.
    They just complement each so well.
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    I love the result from my stack except, from the trenazone, I'm dealing with prolactin issues and my nips are puffed. erase solo didnt really help so i started prami but it's taken 5 days for me to be able to get to 50mg....nasea. so now it's finally going down but I'm adding l-dopa and p5p. I'm not really feeling any harsh sides from epi at 40mg because of cissus and taurine. follow my signature link if you want to check out my log. I'm showing the progress of it.
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    They just complement each so well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LITERaCOLA
    I love the result from my stack except, from the trenazone, I'm dealing with prolactin issues and my nips are puffed. erase solo didnt really help so i started prami but it's taken 5 days for me to be able to get to 50mg....nasea. so now it's finally going down but I'm adding l-dopa and p5p. I'm not really feeling any harsh sides from epi at 40mg because of cissus and taurine. follow my signature link if you want to check out my log. I'm showing the progress of it.
    Alright I'll check it out bro.
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    just to warn you they got scary puffy. it's down even more than my last pic though. but gym4life get some prami just incase you get that side from tren
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    Quote Originally Posted by LITERaCOLA
    just to warn you they got scary puffy. it's down even more than my last pic though. but gym4life get some prami just incase you get that side from tren
    I'd run it with a DHT base if I ever use it.
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    what about hair loss?
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    I'd run it with a DHT base if I ever use it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LITERaCOLA
    just to warn you they got scary puffy. it's down even more than my last pic though. but gym4life get some prami just incase you get that side from tren
    Hmm that could be an issue for me as I don't have a source maybe you could pm me as I need some direction for some chemicals for my pet mouse or anyone else I I will use epi but was thinking teen might be abit harsh for me as it does cause gyno ?? I have only ever done hdrol before.

    If I did do a epi and tren cycle what should be the dosages and supports and pct would I need really appreciate the help I will definitely log my cycle with pics I have abit of a strange belly am waiting for an ultra scan to make sure hernia mesh repair worked and isn't the cause do my bulge could just be fat over the scar tissue as soon as I get results I will jump straight into cycle.

    Has anyone ever thought about an hdrol and androhard or epi with androhard instead of the tren or is just tren hands down the better option ?
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    every ph can casue gyno even epi, it's a matter of serm, and ai mostly and for me i guess a few support supps.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gym4Life View Post
    Hmm that could be an issue for me as I don't have a source maybe you could pm me as I need some direction for some chemicals for my pet mouse or anyone else I I will use epi but was thinking teen might be abit harsh for me as it does cause gyno ?? I have only ever done hdrol before.

    If I did do a epi and tren cycle what should be the dosages and supports and pct would I need really appreciate the help I will definitely log my cycle with pics I have abit of a strange belly am waiting for an ultra scan to make sure hernia mesh repair worked and isn't the cause do my bulge could just be fat over the scar tissue as soon as I get results I will jump straight into cycle.

    Has anyone ever thought about an hdrol and androhard or epi with androhard instead of the tren or is just tren hands down the better option ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LITERaCOLA
    what about hair loss?
    I'm not prone whatsoever fortunately.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Stri8ed View Post
    I'm not prone whatsoever fortunately.
    I don't know if I am paranoid or what but wehn i take a shower, i have mid length hair, i notice like 2 strands of hair in my hands and I flipped out. lol. Ive always had a high forhead but my grandpa on my moms side died with a full set of hair....on my dads side even my grandma is balding... so idk. once I'm 30 i really wont care but since i'm in my 20's dont want to lose it. But you sir are lucky
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    Quote Originally Posted by LITERaCOLA
    I don't know if I am paranoid or what but wehn i take a shower, i have mid length hair, i notice like 2 strands of hair in my hands and I flipped out. lol. Ive always had a high forhead but my grandpa on my moms side died with a full set of hair....on my dads side even my grandma is balding... so idk. once I'm 30 i really wont care but since i'm in my 20's dont want to lose it. But you sir are lucky
    Yeah i'd b losing it by now with all the epi I'm on.
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    I ran the trenazone with Pstanz and half dose AHv3....helped out with sides. never ran the epi with it though....ran that solo right before the trenazone.....so almost ran it all together ....epi seemed to give me no real sides funny enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LITERaCOLA View Post
    I don't know if I am paranoid or what but wehn i take a shower, i have mid length hair, i notice like 2 strands of hair in my hands and I flipped out. lol. Ive always had a high forhead but my grandpa on my moms side died with a full set of hair....on my dads side even my grandma is balding... so idk. once I'm 30 i really wont care but since i'm in my 20's dont want to lose it. But you sir are lucky
    dude, you're like a clone of me LMFAO.....SAME STORY....high forehead from teens (dad also had this)....mom's dad had full head of hair (kinda high forehead also though)....I got mid length trending to long hair, so I get a lot of hair in the brush if I wait 48 hours between shampooing it.....and when I see that clump I'm like WTF!!!! ....but its natural to have a clump of hair if your hair is longer, and its been a few days between shampooing....just seems its a little bit more on these PH/DS, and it freaks you out.....I just hit 40 and figure to get on all the hair products to keep all I have and stop any further loss....If I can keep what I have I'd be more than happy....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Stri8ed

    Yeah i'd b losing it by now with all the epi I'm on.
    I shed like crazy and hair gets super thin on Epi (which I'm on now) and I hate it! Lol. But than again I love Epi. :-( :-)
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