Test/Tren/Winny cycle...opinions wanted

[Nate Dawg]

I have been kind of thinking about this cycle lately and how it would be. The main goals of the cycle would be strength. Although some believe dbol may be the better choice instead of winstrol, I ran some dbol in my current cycle and didnt notice that much from it, and I want to end the cycle with winstrol to help solidify gains at the end. The only thing that worries me about using the winstrol, is that it will be at the end of the cycle after the tren, which will give some serious strength gains, and that winstrol reduces collagen synthesis and causes joint pain, that could make the joints pretty painful. Well here is the layout, tell me your opinions:

Test Enan 500mg/week 1-10
Tren Ace 75-100mg EOD 1-5
Winstrol 50mg/day 7-12

Thoughts?

 

[Skye]

for get the winny. fina will give you everthing you need with out the joint problems (esp going for strength, tendons and joint problems are the last thing you need). Just run the fina for for the length of the cycle.

If dbol did work it was probable bunk. if your really not receptive then try drol. (I hate it though)

Iwould do something like this:
test e 500mg a weeks for weeks 1 to 10
tren a 100 to 150mg eod for weeks 3 to 12
Optional 250iu HCG twice a week for weeks 3 to 12
PCT week 13

BTW if the dbol didn't do it for you before try it with the fina

 

[jminis]

Looks good bro but here's some things I would change
Test Enan 500mg/week 1-9
Tren Ace 75-100mg EOD 1-5
Winstrol 50mg/day 8-12
or
Test Enan 500mg/week 1-8
Dbol 50mg/day 1-2
Tren Ace 75mg/EOD 1-5
Winstrol 25mg/day 8
Winstrol 50mg/day 9-10
Winstrol 75mg/day 11

personally I like #2 :thumbsup:

 

[SureShot]

Most feel the joint pains from winny after week 6-7, i dont think it will be a problem for the length you want to run it, i would not run tren to the end, even with proper pct most experience a crash, esp in terms of strength. Winny will help hold on to some of the strength gains and is easier to come off with. I would actually run the enanthate for 12 weeks, the tren for 10, and winny the last 4 weeks, but thats JMO.

 

[goldylight]

I have been kind of thinking about this cycle lately and how it would be. The main goals of the cycle would be strength. Although some believe dbol may be the better choice instead of winstrol, I ran some dbol in my current cycle and didnt notice that much from it, and I want to end the cycle with winstrol to help solidify gains at the end. The only thing that worries me about using the winstrol, is that it will be at the end of the cycle after the tren, which will give some serious strength gains, and that winstrol reduces collagen synthesis and causes joint pain, that could make the joints pretty painful. Well here is the layout, tell me your opinions:

Test Enan 500mg/week 1-10
Tren Ace 75-100mg EOD 1-5
Winstrol 50mg/day 7-12

Thoughts?

Test Enan 500mg/week 1-10
Tren Ace 75-100mg EOD 3-12
Winstrol 50mg/day 7-12

or just forget trenA and get TRENE and run same as testE

 

[Nate Dawg]

I would like to try the tren enan due to less injections per week, I could just mix it with my test and only have to do two shots a week, but if the sides get bad, I dont know if I want to wait 2 weeks for the tren to clear out...I will consider that though. I will definetly be running HCG through the cycle, probably 250IU 2x week. That is what I am doing now, and it is really helping with keeping the boys up to size. Thanks for all the replies guys, any more opinions?

P.S. Skye, I am pretty sure that dbol had to have been junk, I ran 50mg/day for 5 weeks, and honestly didnt notice that much from it, and I know for a fact my diet and training were in check. 5000+ cals/day...so I should have gained more than the 9lbs I did in those 5 weeks IMO.

 

[tgreen]

Most feel the joint pains from winny after week 6-7, i dont think it will be a problem for the length you want to run it, i would not run tren to the end, even with proper pct most experience a crash, esp in terms of strength. Winny will help hold on to some of the strength gains and is easier to come off with. I would actually run the enanthate for 12 weeks, the tren for 10, and winny the last 4 weeks, but thats JMO.

Bump. Makes sense.