Can muscles be overworked on steroids?

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by SuperPro

    That's a recommendation based off of working each muscle group once a week, it's not too much at all. That's not high volume in any way. 16 sets for chest is 4 sets each for 4 exercises... I did that 2 days ago in 40min easy. 20 sets would be one more exercise for another four sets, so 5 for 4. I was doing ~25 sets on chest day while I was on, and I've commonly done 30 sets total for legs, that's high volume not 16 to 20. This is totally different if you are doing a workout split, where the same muscle groups are worked more than once a week.

    I spent a lot of time messing around doing 3 sets of each exercise for 4 or 5 different exercises a muscle group and getting nowhere. Upping volume is what works for me, maybe it's not good for everyone but it works well for some.

    I've also done lower volume with higher frequency like groverino suggested and though I liked that program it was taxing on me because I work 10-12+ hours a day, so things like 2 a days are very difficult for me to accomplish.

    It's not a terrible program on or off, there's not one program that works well for everyone and things that may seem ridiculous to some work well for others so open your fkin minds a little bit.
    Yeah for each bodypart once a week....9 sets or more would seem to be mandatory.....i usually do it that way. But I've been mostly cutting and recomping the last 6 months or so.....id go twice a week maybe on a bulk/lean bulk though....


  2. Quote Originally Posted by SuperPro View Post
    Here is an article about high volume workouts saying that they generally involve 18-30 sets per body part. It does also talk about high volume training results stopping for most lifters after some time and how workouts can become catabolic after 60min or so for natural lifters. This is why I cycle my workouts and take a little while to do some lower volume training than this every few months or so.

    http://muscleandbrawn.com/high-volume-training/

    The high volume workout shown here has 24 sets: http://plyoathletics.blogspot.co.uk/...t-workout.html

    There you have it.
    The whole "60 minute rule" is retarded and those "articles" are terrible. 75 minutes falls into the high-volume category...seriously!? I spend that much time warming up and then working up to my max.
    M.Ed. Ex Phys

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  3. Quote Originally Posted by Rhadam View Post
    Muscles can get overworked on sterons. But the biggest issue is your tendons and ligaments. The muscles grow much faster than everything else, and it's easy to injure yourself.
    ^ just about to put the exact same thing. Especially if you're new to lifting and shouldn't be using anabolics yet because your tendons and ligaments aren't strong yet but the anabolics give you the ability to lift more weight which puts more stress on the tendons and ligaments.

  4. Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    The whole "60 minute rule" is retarded and those "articles" are terrible. 75 minutes falls into the high-volume category...seriously!? I spend that much time warming up and then working up to my max.
    I know the articles weren't the best, but the workouts were what I was looking for for my example.
    "Lifting and Game of Thrones share the same calendar, there's only two seasons: cutting and bulking. And guess what? Winter's comin' so it's time to bulk up!"
    -Dom Mazzetti

  5. Sorry to bring up a dead thread, but how does this look on a ph cycle.

    Day 1: Chest, tri's
    Day 2: back, bi's
    Day 3: legs
    Day 4 : shoulders, traps
    Day 5: rest
    Repeat

    Also, listening to my body if it seems to much
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by LTFU
    Sorry to bring up a dead thread, but how does this look on a ph cycle.

    Day 1: Chest, tri's
    Day 2: back, bi's
    Day 3: legs
    Day 4 : shoulders, traps
    Day 5: rest
    Repeat

    Also, listening to my body if it seems to much
    This should be in the training section. And besides why changed your routine when you're on anabolics??

    Your post doesn't have very much detail either. How about sets and reps?
    Getting back into the swing of things

  7. Sorry about that. But normally 4 workouts of 3 sets 6-10 reps per body part. And only reason I was thinking of bumping it up is because the increased recovery from being on cycle

  8. Quote Originally Posted by LTFU
    Sorry about that. But normally 4 workouts of 3 sets 6-10 reps per body part. And only reason I was thinking of bumping it up is because the increased recovery from being on cycle
    You're only doing three sets per body part? Please tell me I read that wrong....

  9. Quote Originally Posted by Bruiser76

    You're only doing three sets per body part? Please tell me I read that wrong....
    No, each workout has 3 sets. So 12 total sets

  10. Quote Originally Posted by LTFU

    No, each workout has 3 sets. So 12 total sets
    Okay. It didn't sound right the way you explained it.
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