with the 50mg front load it kick in with in the first week!! i dropped to 25 then to 20 and its been pretty nice. strength is way up, size its hard to tell cuz im using it in pct, i have kept all my gains from my cycle. no sides! ill have bloods done in about 3 weeks so ill tell you if there is any suppression.
i loaded 50mg last week of my cycle, then dropped to 25mg first week of pct, then 20 second week and i stayed there i like the dose. i can most def feel it in my work outs.
on another note. i used hemovol (has all that stuff you use in it for preworkout). for the first time in a fasted state. it made a huge difference. i never noticed because i generally train with carbs. but i was lifting heavy no problem which when i dont have my oats..does not happen. so im sold on hemovol!!