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    Quote Originally Posted by dagger1

    Claims of ai effect are from a few weeks to a few months, so if they are accurate then test to estrogen ratio should still be very broad even a few weeks after pct if it has long lasting effects. I do know typical signs of low estrogen exist because most users of epi keep muscle hardness, vascularity and fat metabolism well after cycle is over. It may also be why epi gains are easier to maintain after cycle compaired to m-drol or h-drol.
    Yes I do have to agree with, not to mention the dry joints. I'm on epi now.

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    Ran idea past doctor that lifts at my gym. He suggested against it simply that it is not the same as trt in anyway and that oral delivery would not be the way to go and after a few rounds it would catch up with me. Told me if i choose to experiment with my own body which he is not advising then to at least keep time on and time off the same. Said if he were to choose somthing like this he would run 2weeks on and 2weeks off and only run three or four short cycles max and then take few months odd. Said not to use any oral more than 15 to 16 weeks out of the year. Suggested just ordering test if i have a sourse and running it at a low dose in 3week cycles to keep supression low and run mild pct on off time
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    Quote Originally Posted by dagger1
    Ran idea past doctor that lifts at my gym. He suggested against it simply that it is not the same as trt in anyway and that oral delivery would not be the way to go and after a few rounds it would catch up with me. Told me if i choose to experiment with my own body which he is not advising then to at least keep time on and time off the same. Said if he were to choose somthing like this he would run 2weeks on and 2weeks off and only run three or four short cycles max and then take few months odd. Said not to use any oral more than 15 to 16 weeks out of the year. Suggested just ordering test if i have a sourse and running it at a low dose in 3week cycles to keep supression low and run mild pct on off time
    Yeah I figured there would b some type of drawback with running it like that. So I guess test is the way to go for u bro.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhadam View Post
    WUT? uh...... not sure if srs
    It's also important to remember that the anti-e properties are shown with the unmethylated molecule that's (was) prescribed as a breast cancer treatment in Japan. The otc ds epi, is 17a-methylated which makes it a different molecule.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dagger1 View Post
    Ran idea past doctor that lifts at my gym. He suggested against it simply that it is not the same as trt in anyway and that oral delivery would not be the way to go and after a few rounds it would catch up with me. Told me if i choose to experiment with my own body which he is not advising then to at least keep time on and time off the same. Said if he were to choose somthing like this he would run 2weeks on and 2weeks off and only run three or four short cycles max and then take few months odd. Said not to use any oral more than 15 to 16 weeks out of the year. Suggested just ordering test if i have a sourse and running it at a low dose in 3week cycles to keep supression low and run mild pct on off time
    Quote Originally Posted by Whacked View Post
    Sup Dagger.

    I question why you think EPI would be superior for said cause in lieu of a potent AI like Erase. Moreover, doing things to support maximum endogenous production (such as the Erase) and lifestyle choices (food, stress, exercise, etc) along with Test Boosters (there are actually efficacious choices these days).

    That said, I can appreciate the clever thought process here but I think you run the risk of adversely affecting HPTA.

    As it is with moth hormonal pathways in the body, this is a tightly regulated system. As such, with consistent (daily) manipulation, you will inevitably impact the HPTA (at the very least, slightly). Additionally, in light of your strategy, cummulatively you will influence the axis. Only time will tell if it will shut you down or cause delayed recovery or permanent issues (highly doubtful).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whacked
    Your Doc is wise

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    Whacked u hit the nail on the head brother.
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    Not really, I was a lil upset I finally got it right and I got blown off

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    Whacked u hit the nail on the head brother.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whacked
    Not really, I was a lil upset I finally got it right and I got blown off

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    Lol I feel u bro, your points made sense though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whacked View Post
    Not really, I was a lil upset I finally got it right and I got blown off

    LMAO

    haha
    actually....what happened was....we all got together and decided you got SO MANY things wrong in the past, we figured you need to get SEVERAL things nailed on the head....and THEN we will give you credit....but not just for one nail on the head LMFAO! (j/k of course.....)
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    Finished d-zine cycle, decided to expeirment with epi as morning only bridge pre pct, on second week. Gained 8lbs on d-zine recomp. 10 days into epi(dynamic formulas 15mg) 15mg at 9am ed. Useing finaflex preworkout in combo. So far havent lost weight or strength, libido is back up, no crash comeing off d-zine. Figured 30 days on epi to help solidify gains(vascularity is going up dramaticly on epi) then starting clomid and pct support supps. Didnt have much atrophy from dymeth at 15,15,15,30,30 over 5weeks but did get shutdown and total loss of libido in 4th week which came back 4th day on epi. Ill repost after 30th day before pct
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    Quote Originally Posted by dagger1
    Finished d-zine cycle, decided to expeirment with epi as morning only bridge pre pct, on second week. Gained 8lbs on d-zine recomp. 10 days into epi(dynamic formulas 15mg) 15mg at 9am ed. Useing finaflex preworkout in combo. So far havent lost weight or strength, libido is back up, no crash comeing off d-zine. Figured 30 days on epi to help solidify gains(vascularity is going up dramaticly on epi) then starting clomid and pct support supps. Didnt have much atrophy from dymeth at 15,15,15,30,30 over 5weeks but did get shutdown and total loss of libido in 4th week which came back 4th day on epi. Ill repost after 30th day before pct
    That's pretty interesting.
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    Testing its possabilities as low dose solidification and allowing the body to bounce back a little on its own to make simplified pct which im hopeing will be a breeze
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    22days into morning only epi bridge. Strength and lbm gains still at 7 of 8lbs. Feel great all day, vascularity up some(expecially early day and for 4 to 5hrs after workouts) . Quite certain its lh boosting effects are accurate as the boys are swollen every morning and sex drive is very high(wife likes). 8days and will start post cycle, will likely use this method in future to help mature shrot oral cycles unless somthing doesnt pan out once pct is started.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dagger1 View Post
    22days into morning only epi bridge. Strength and lbm gains still at 7 of 8lbs. Feel great all day, vascularity up some(expecially early day and for 4 to 5hrs after workouts) . Quite certain its lh boosting effects are accurate as the boys are swollen every morning and sex drive is very high(wife likes). 8days and will start post cycle, will likely use this method in future to help mature shrot oral cycles unless somthing doesnt pan out once pct is started.
    Good job!
    Do you do 15mg everyday first thing? Do "feel" good at nights also and how's your sleep?
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    Only 15mg at 9am. Sleep is 6 to 8hrs(normal for me) feel fine at night, appitite stays strong, normally dont feel tired or worn down untill around 10pm(my job works the crap out of me in 90+ tempatures). Did get typical epi constipation and some mild stomach cramps but are bearable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dagger1
    22days into morning only epi bridge. Strength and lbm gains still at 7 of 8lbs. Feel great all day, vascularity up some(expecially early day and for 4 to 5hrs after workouts) . Quite certain its lh boosting effects are accurate as the boys are swollen every morning and sex drive is very high(wife likes). 8days and will start post cycle, will likely use this method in future to help mature shrot oral cycles unless somthing doesnt pan out once pct is started.
    Very good to hear actually, I'm glad this is working out perfectly.
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    Dang, awesome to hear this is working so well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Stri8ed View Post
    Very good to hear actually, I'm glad this is working out perfectly.
    Wont know if it works perfectly untill the start of pct next week. If it works out should be near 50% of natural test production im hopeing and then sail through pct without loseing strength or muscle
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    Quote Originally Posted by dagger1
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    Wont know if it works perfectly untill the start of pct next week. If it works out should be near 50% of natural test production im hopeing and then sail through pct without loseing strength or muscle
    I have total faith you'll b fine bro, trust me especially with the cycle I just ran and I'm still making gains in my pct.
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    If it works might try it after sd cycle this winter, run 4week bulk 20,20,30,30 and 4 weeks of epi to see if it works after total shutdown. Try to get bloodwork next time. Pre cycle,mid cycle, after epi, and post cycle
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    Quote Originally Posted by dagger1
    If it works might try it after sd cycle this winter, run 4week bulk 20,20,30,30 and 4 weeks of epi to see if it works after total shutdown. Try to get bloodwork next time. Pre cycle,mid cycle, after epi, and post cycle
    Sounds good bro.
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    Epistane pre pct bridge worked out, felt very good after 30day, sorry for late reply but ibs started acting up so was bed ridden for week except for basic workouts, only loswt 2lbs total, did increase vascularity and strength stayed the same. Pct was cake, not sure if was needed or not with clomid, got 2weeks left to be sure. Guessing the stage 5pcts like arimedexin and others may have some backing to their madness of useing a steroid in pct at low dose. Not saying it would be the best method(will always be true to the serm) but it seems to be a viable option to those who can not obtain one or in the militay where you dont have the option to abuse research chems. Sex drive returned quickly, maintained gains and stength even at low dose.
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    I'm glad to hear this went well bro.
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