Running MDrol as a first cycle

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by MrMarc View Post
    He going to want Reduce XT or Lean extreme cortisol level will spike by the 3 week.
    Not necessary in my opinion. Not for SD. Maybe EPI or Tren or something, but not SD. Would it hurt? No. But not necessary.

    Quote Originally Posted by wanaBJacked View Post
    this is why i recommended the bulk modern bcaa, it's super cheap for how much you get. your not paying for the flashy bottle or the caps. if you get any get that. other than that dont waste your money.
    BCAAs are a waste while you're on sterons. Do you know how much protein your body utilizes over normal? Recovery is 110% bro.

    Quote Originally Posted by wanaBJacked View Post
    I thought they got rebound gyno if they used tomax as their serm
    No.

    Quote Originally Posted by wanaBJacked View Post
    hdrol is dry. mdrol is wet. they're both SD clones.
    No. Hdrol is not a SD clone, it's Hdrol. Calling things dry or wet is a misnomer.

    Quote Originally Posted by KenTheEagle View Post
    Sdrol can be dry or wet, depending on diet... in fact, the water gain from sdrol is intra-muscular, meaning that if you are already dry, and get water gain, youll still look dry. superdrol can even work as a recomp agent!.
    Again, calling things dry or wet is a misnomer.


  2. Quote Originally Posted by wanaBJacked
    hdrol is dry. mdrol is wet. they're both SD clones.
    U should get negged for this. I facepalmed thru a brick
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    my bad i always was under the impression it was just a weaker formula.
    Quote Originally Posted by ThunderHumper View Post
    U should get negged for this. I facepalmed thru a brick

  4. Quote Originally Posted by wanaBJacked
    my bad i always was under the impression it was just a weaker formula.
    Hdrol = one of the most mild compounds
    Sdrol = one of the harshest

    Huge difference
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    ya i get that i thought it was different but someone told me it was a dry sd clone and i didn't really care to double check. i know there is a huge difference I've taken h drol and m drol and the difference was night and day. wasn't trying to give out ****ty information. I stated earlier to take h drol not mdrol as the first cycle because it's weaker. I just was misinformed about actual name of the compound.
    Quote Originally Posted by ThunderHumper View Post
    Hdrol = one of the most mild compounds
    Sdrol = one of the harshest

    Huge difference
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  6. Why the hell would the same company make 2 clones of the same thing. Think about it man
    Quote Originally Posted by wanaBJacked View Post
    hdrol is dry. mdrol is wet. they're both SD clones.

  7. Alright bro I didn't read the rest of the posts but here is how I would do it.

    SD 4 Weeks
    10/20/20/30

    If you're dying to go past 4 weeks then you should probably bridge it into something lighter like Stanodrol. I'd just stick with the SD.

    While on, pick up some cycle support. I use Organ Shield by Purus Labs. Cycle support is crucial because it helps combat sides like back pumps, helps with your kidneys, and helps with your liver.

    For PCT make sure you use a SERM. Look up "research chemicals" on google and buy some Nolvadex. Run it 20/20/10/10. Buy the 10mg pills it will be easier for you to dose.

    I would also pick up some Erase or Formastane and some DAA for PCT. Dose the Erase 0/3/2/2 and the DAA 3g/3g/3g/3g.

    Some people like to run OTC pct supports, too. I've used Recycle by Purus and I loved it.

    Here's the deal...I know that this seems like a lot to buy and maybe overkill, but if you make the mistake and run SD without the support you'll be paying for it in the long run.

    Just my 2 cents.

    Donny

  8. Quote Originally Posted by Rhadam View Post
    Honestly i would run h-drol first just to see how you handle it. If it were me i would save the cycle support for your mdrol run. PCT will stay the same. I would however run some basic NAC during your cycle and PCT. SNS makes Liver Assist XT. I take NAC daily for many reasons, but i've always used it on my lesser cycles and been very happy. For multiple compounds i recommend Antaeus Lab's Aegis or straight bulk TUDCA/UDCA.
    Great suggestions man. I've been running h drol and do not regret it... It's mellow no sides and great mental focus... Instead of raging it soothes... Will this remain constant throughout the cycle? BIG THANKS THOUGH BRO!!!

  9. Quote Originally Posted by DonnyG View Post
    Alright bro I didn't read the rest of the posts but here is how I would do it.

    SD 4 Weeks
    10/20/20/30

    If you're dying to go past 4 weeks then you should probably bridge it into something lighter like Stanodrol. I'd just stick with the SD.

    While on, pick up some cycle support. I use Organ Shield by Purus Labs. Cycle support is crucial because it helps combat sides like back pumps, helps with your kidneys, and helps with your liver.

    For PCT make sure you use a SERM. Look up "research chemicals" on google and buy some Nolvadex. Run it 20/20/10/10. Buy the 10mg pills it will be easier for you to dose.

    I would also pick up some Erase or Formastane and some DAA for PCT. Dose the Erase 0/3/2/2 and the DAA 3g/3g/3g/3g.

    Some people like to run OTC pct supports, too. I've used Recycle by Purus and I loved it.

    Here's the deal...I know that this seems like a lot to buy and maybe overkill, but if you make the mistake and run SD without the support you'll be paying for it in the long run.

    Just my 2 cents.

    Donny
    Awesome recommendations... I think liver longer is what I am getting soon. And how well do OTC pct do on hdrol. Is recycle the one you ran after hdrol?

  10. Quote Originally Posted by texas556 View Post
    Awesome recommendations... I think liver longer is what I am getting soon. And how well do OTC pct do on hdrol. Is recycle the one you ran after hdrol?
    I used recycle in all of my PCTs since my first cycle, where all I used was some formestane and an OTC PCT. Don't just go with just an OTC PCT ever bro. I've used torem for PCT alongside recycle on all my cycles since, and believe me life is easier. Even better when you add the DAA.

    I'd run the hdrol if you feel like running hdrol. I didn't like hdrol that much. I got kidney stones and my libido took a huge shot. Then again I was running it with SD...to each his own I suppose.

    SD comes with it's share of sides my friend. The first time I ran it I couldn't believe how short my temper was, and I'm not exactly the most patient guy to begin with. Acne definitely became prevalent around the end of week 1, and your body is hot as hell all the time, especially at night. By week 4 night sweats can be crazy.

    I don't care about the sides at all. I sleep in a shirt and crank the AC up so my sheets don't get soaked, and I drink a ton of water and exfoliate my skin to help with the acne. You gotta pay the cost to be the boss. Sides are part of the game.

    Also, don't freak out if you see your nipples puff out a little. Even if something doesn't aromatize or a supp claims it cannot convert to estrogen, you will undoubtedly see some estrogenic effects in every DS you take. If you PCT the right way, keep your diet clean, and kill it in the gym, you have nothing to worry about.

  11. Quote Originally Posted by DonnyG

    I used recycle in all of my PCTs since my first cycle, where all I used was some formestane and an OTC PCT. Don't just go with just an OTC PCT ever bro. I've used torem for PCT alongside recycle on all my cycles since, and believe me life is easier. Even better when you add the DAA.

    I'd run the hdrol if you feel like running hdrol. I didn't like hdrol that much. I got kidney stones and my libido took a huge shot. Then again I was running it with SD...to each his own I suppose.

    SD comes with it's share of sides my friend. The first time I ran it I couldn't believe how short my temper was, and I'm not exactly the most patient guy to begin with. Acne definitely became prevalent around the end of week 1, and your body is hot as hell all the time, especially at night. By week 4 night sweats can be crazy.

    I don't care about the sides at all. I sleep in a shirt and crank the AC up so my sheets don't get soaked, and I drink a ton of water and exfoliate my skin to help with the acne. You gotta pay the cost to be the boss. Sides are part of the game.

    Also, don't freak out if you see your nipples puff out a little. Even if something doesn't aromatize or a supp claims it cannot convert to estrogen, you will undoubtedly see some estrogenic effects in every DS you take. If you PCT the right way, keep your diet clean, and kill it in the gym, you have nothing to worry about.
    Holly sh*t back pumps are kicking my ass though. Does the nipple swelling go away? I haven't seen that and maybe need to think about running more if it does appear. The tits **** is the only side I freak out about really.

  12. When does gyno show in a h Drol cycle?

  13. ^ hopefully never

  14. If you have nipple swelling or puffy nipples, something is wrong.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by texas556
    When does gyno show in a h Drol cycle?
    if they are puffy and sensitive

  16. Has anyone heard this happening when taking HDrol? So far its been 2 weeks and only side is bad back pumps

  17. if you're refering to your previous gyno post as heard of it happening then Stop being overly paranoid man. You should already have your serm and an ai if your nipples get puffy start your ai. If it doesnt go down in a few days start some letro. if it still doest go down stop the cycle and go to pct. if your talking about the back pumps get some taurine. thats what i take with my havoc and it helps. i think it would for hdrol. someone correct me if i'm wrong.
    Quote Originally Posted by texas556 View Post
    Has anyone heard this happening when taking HDrol? So far its been 2 weeks and only side is bad back pumps

  18. Everything is good. No crazy nipple shixt. Just covering my bases. Thanks for all the good recommendations. Is the list you stated in order of increasing intensity to combat gyno or just a list?
    As far as back pumps I drink a power drink w Taurine in it and it sort of helps... I need to swing by and get some at supp store though

  19. And gyno can be reduced/ gotten rid of?

  20. if caught early enough. Just check your nips once a day see if theres any bumps.
    Quote Originally Posted by texas556 View Post
    And gyno can be reduced/ gotten rid of?

  21. Quote Originally Posted by Craigmatthew View Post
    3 week cycle on mdrol can yield great results even at 10/10/10.
    I've been looking a lot into low dose mdrol cycles. With some people saying that it's way too low and others saying it is best to minimize sides. Has anyone thought about doing 10 on nonworkout days and 20 on workout days? Another thing i've thought about doing is splitting the 10mg dose into two 5mg doses spread out evenly as to maintain a plasma lvl of mdrol.

  22. Quote Originally Posted by jquanda

    I've been looking a lot into low dose mdrol cycles. With some people saying that it's way too low and others saying it is best to minimize sides. Has anyone thought about doing 10 on nonworkout days and 20 on workout days? Another thing i've thought about doing is splitting the 10mg dose into two 5mg doses spread out evenly as to maintain a plasma lvl of mdrol.
    I was wondering same thing

  23. Ok so I* did a few weeks of HDrol. I did get comments* by alot of my friends that I had gotten "huge" . Gains were about 20% to 30% in everything.

    I will be doing havoc cycle or an Mdrol next. Any recommendations on which I should roll with next?

    Also lethargy was horrible on the cycle. Now (as PCT) I'm on...
    cycle assist,
    nolva,
    liver xt,
    taurine if my back is bad (which it hasn't been since ive been off),
    and DAA.
    And on the last weeks 2 of about 4 I plan on hitting erase to detoxify. Most of these suggestions are thanks to you all who have helped me on here. I just want to take time and thank you all. May all your wishes be realized.

    But again Havoc or Mdrol? And what else should I run with these?

  24. if you want to cut havoc. bulk m drol. m drol i would run solo. With havoc i'm running with trenazone and getting great results.

  25. wait a few months before you start another cycle though

  26. Quote Originally Posted by LITERaCOLA View Post
    wait a few months before you start another cycle though
    Thanks broski. Im sub'd to yours looking good. The minor gyno you talked about freaks me though

  27. It's not gyno its puffy from the prolactin which can induce gyno but it isn't gyno. you can read how i deal with it such as support supps and what not, i'm updating pictures on it soon. it's almost completely back to normal. but if you want to avoid that possibility don't go with trenazone.
    Quote Originally Posted by texas556 View Post
    Thanks broski. Im sub'd to yours looking good. The minor gyno you talked about freaks me though

  28. Quote Originally Posted by LITERaCOLA View Post
    It's not gyno its puffy from the prolactin which can induce gyno but it isn't gyno. you can read how i deal with it such as support supps and what not, i'm updating pictures on it soon. it's almost completely back to normal. but if you want to avoid that possibility don't go with trenazone.
    Agreed. Sorry not gyno but chest related issues.

  29. oh it's chill man. a lot of people on here think that puffy nipples or the slightest sign of something like that is gyno so i'm use to it. just for everyone who freaks out right away it's just part of the cycle and everyone needs to calm down.
    Quote Originally Posted by texas556 View Post
    Agreed. Sorry not gyno but chest related issues.
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