Running MDrol as a first cycle
- 06-03-2012, 07:13 AM
- 06-03-2012, 11:36 AM
06-03-2012, 01:20 PM
06-03-2012, 01:22 PM
Hdrol = one of the most mild compoundsOriginally Posted by wanaBJacked
Sdrol = one of the harshest
06-03-2012, 01:26 PM
ya i get that i thought it was different but someone told me it was a dry sd clone and i didn't really care to double check. i know there is a huge difference I've taken h drol and m drol and the difference was night and day. wasn't trying to give out ****ty information. I stated earlier to take h drol not mdrol as the first cycle because it's weaker. I just was misinformed about actual name of the compound.
06-03-2012, 02:05 PM
06-03-2012, 02:36 PM
Alright bro I didn't read the rest of the posts but here is how I would do it.
SD 4 Weeks
If you're dying to go past 4 weeks then you should probably bridge it into something lighter like Stanodrol. I'd just stick with the SD.
While on, pick up some cycle support. I use Organ Shield by Purus Labs. Cycle support is crucial because it helps combat sides like back pumps, helps with your kidneys, and helps with your liver.
For PCT make sure you use a SERM. Look up "research chemicals" on google and buy some Nolvadex. Run it 20/20/10/10. Buy the 10mg pills it will be easier for you to dose.
I would also pick up some Erase or Formastane and some DAA for PCT. Dose the Erase 0/3/2/2 and the DAA 3g/3g/3g/3g.
Some people like to run OTC pct supports, too. I've used Recycle by Purus and I loved it.
Here's the deal...I know that this seems like a lot to buy and maybe overkill, but if you make the mistake and run SD without the support you'll be paying for it in the long run.
Just my 2 cents.
06-09-2012, 01:32 PM
06-09-2012, 01:35 PM
06-10-2012, 02:15 AM
I'd run the hdrol if you feel like running hdrol. I didn't like hdrol that much. I got kidney stones and my libido took a huge shot. Then again I was running it with SD...to each his own I suppose.
SD comes with it's share of sides my friend. The first time I ran it I couldn't believe how short my temper was, and I'm not exactly the most patient guy to begin with. Acne definitely became prevalent around the end of week 1, and your body is hot as hell all the time, especially at night. By week 4 night sweats can be crazy.
I don't care about the sides at all. I sleep in a shirt and crank the AC up so my sheets don't get soaked, and I drink a ton of water and exfoliate my skin to help with the acne. You gotta pay the cost to be the boss. Sides are part of the game.
Also, don't freak out if you see your nipples puff out a little. Even if something doesn't aromatize or a supp claims it cannot convert to estrogen, you will undoubtedly see some estrogenic effects in every DS you take. If you PCT the right way, keep your diet clean, and kill it in the gym, you have nothing to worry about.
06-11-2012, 11:59 AM
Holly sh*t back pumps are kicking my ass though. Does the nipple swelling go away? I haven't seen that and maybe need to think about running more if it does appear. The tits **** is the only side I freak out about really.Originally Posted by DonnyG
06-13-2012, 03:02 PM
06-13-2012, 06:29 PM
06-13-2012, 06:31 PM
06-13-2012, 08:26 PM
06-13-2012, 10:43 PM
Has anyone heard this happening when taking HDrol? So far its been 2 weeks and only side is bad back pumps
06-13-2012, 10:55 PM
if you're refering to your previous gyno post as heard of it happening then Stop being overly paranoid man. You should already have your serm and an ai if your nipples get puffy start your ai. If it doesnt go down in a few days start some letro. if it still doest go down stop the cycle and go to pct. if your talking about the back pumps get some taurine. thats what i take with my havoc and it helps. i think it would for hdrol. someone correct me if i'm wrong.
06-14-2012, 12:20 PM
Everything is good. No crazy nipple shixt. Just covering my bases. Thanks for all the good recommendations. Is the list you stated in order of increasing intensity to combat gyno or just a list?
As far as back pumps I drink a power drink w Taurine in it and it sort of helps... I need to swing by and get some at supp store though
06-14-2012, 12:22 PM
06-14-2012, 12:41 PM
06-26-2012, 11:03 PM
06-27-2012, 06:29 PM
07-08-2012, 12:13 AM
Ok so I* did a few weeks of HDrol. I did get comments* by alot of my friends that I had gotten "huge" . Gains were about 20% to 30% in everything.
I will be doing havoc cycle or an Mdrol next. Any recommendations on which I should roll with next?
Also lethargy was horrible on the cycle. Now (as PCT) I'm on...
taurine if my back is bad (which it hasn't been since ive been off),
And on the last weeks 2 of about 4 I plan on hitting erase to detoxify. Most of these suggestions are thanks to you all who have helped me on here. I just want to take time and thank you all. May all your wishes be realized.
But again Havoc or Mdrol? And what else should I run with these?
07-08-2012, 03:28 AM
if you want to cut havoc. bulk m drol. m drol i would run solo. With havoc i'm running with trenazone and getting great results.
07-08-2012, 03:29 AM
07-08-2012, 11:26 AM
07-08-2012, 12:03 PM
It's not gyno its puffy from the prolactin which can induce gyno but it isn't gyno. you can read how i deal with it such as support supps and what not, i'm updating pictures on it soon. it's almost completely back to normal. but if you want to avoid that possibility don't go with trenazone.
07-09-2012, 01:35 PM
07-09-2012, 02:23 PM
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