Stanodrol/AndroHard/Proviron differences unclear

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  1. Stanodrol/AndroHard/Proviron differences unclear


    Hi there,

    i have just some questions.

    -Is Stanodrol the same as AndroHard V1?
    -AndroHard (at least V3) claims to have anti-gyno properties. Is this also true for stanodrol?
    -Proviron seems to be an androgen without anabolic properties. Do Androhard and Stanodrol have more anabolic quality and how do they differ?
    -Proviron seems to improve fertility and is only suppressive at higher dosages. Androhard V3 also showed only little suppression even on cycles of 12-16 weeks. But what about stanodrol? Rarely see people run that longer than 8 weeks. And tunedsports even recommend a serm at dosages higher than 450mg??

    My only experience is with stanodrol. What would the advantage for me be to switch to one of the Androhards for the next time?


  2. Quote Originally Posted by uubiduu View Post
    Hi there,

    i have just some questions.

    -Is Stanodrol the same as AndroHard V1? YES, the only difference being the means of dosing (AndroHard used LV technology)
    -AndroHard (at least V3) claims to have anti-gyno properties. Is this also true for stanodrol? YES, although you would need to increase dose of stano to match androhard
    -Proviron seems to be an androgen without anabolic properties. Do Androhard and Stanodrol have more anabolic quality and how do they differ? It's benefit is in it's androdgenic properties.
    -Proviron seems to improve fertility and is only suppressive at higher dosages. Androhard V3 also showed only little suppression even on cycles of 12-16 weeks. But what about stanodrol? Rarely see people run that longer than 8 weeks. And tunedsports even recommend a serm at dosages higher than 450mg? I would guess you could have a similar cycle set up with Stanodrol, but AndroHard's carrier (besides making it more efficient in the body) allows it to be dosed once a day, which isn't ideal for Stano.

    My only experience is with stanodrol. What would the advantage for me be to switch to one of the Androhards for the next time? That would be for you to decide. My opinion would obviously be considered bias. However, it does seem the average user has been more impressed with AndroHard, and by design it should be a better product over all.
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  3. Thank you very much for your sophisticated answers. Im really interested in trying the AH v3 in comparison to stanodrol. What do you think, would 4 caps/day of AH v3 equal to 600mg Stano in terms of effects? Then one bottle would last 6 weeks.
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  4. Quote Originally Posted by uubiduu View Post
    Thank you very much for your sophisticated answers. Im really interested in trying the AH v3 in comparison to stanodrol. What do you think, would 4 caps/day of AH v3 equal to 600mg Stano in terms of effects? Then one bottle would last 6 weeks.
    It is worth a shot if that is the dose you prefer for stano. There is a slight difference between users based on AndroHard v3 being a blend of both the a- and b- forms of the compound, but I have heard of guys running 4 caps and were happy with it. What are you running it with? Or would this be solo?
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  5. what do you mean by "the average user has been more impressed with androhard"? References?
    Quote Originally Posted by HereToStudy View Post
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by Husker89 View Post
    what do you mean by "the average user has been more impressed with androhard"? References?
    He is referring to the feedback from those that have used both there have been man posts of this being so


  7. i havent seen any
    Quote Originally Posted by ryansm View Post
    He is referring to the feedback from those that have used both there have been man posts of this being so

  8. All the hormones mentioned need to be dosed rather high and do NOT expect to gain size or great muscle mass form such a compound as a stand alone. These products are hardening/anti-estrogenic agents used to keep estrogen in check and harden up muscle when low in BF or used in place of overly harsh SERMS.

    Proviron -100-200 mg a day
    Stano -- 600-1200 mg a day
    AH ---600-1200 mg a day

    -Matt
    Body Problem Mechanic
    National Level Competitor.

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  9. Quote Originally Posted by Husker89 View Post
    i havent seen any
    Again, your constant negativity in our threads is not going unnoticed, although it isn't surprising since you confessed to have a strong disdain for me.

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  10. u are taking this personally man, I just dont know anyone personally who has said that so saying that the average user likes one or the other better i dont think is fair.
    Quote Originally Posted by HereToStudy View Post
    Again, your constant negativity in our threads is not going unnoticed, although it isn't surprising since you confessed to have a strong disdain for me.

    As requested:
    http://www.prohormoneforum.com/proho...androhard.html

    Happy?

  11. Quote Originally Posted by Husker89 View Post
    u are taking this personally man, I just dont know anyone personally who has said that so saying that the average user likes one or the other better i dont think is fair.
    I just quoted a discussion on it from a prohormone board, it is very fair.
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  12. 1 discussion doesnt mean that the average user likes your product better. You are implying out of all the average users out there they all prefer your product without evidence, 1 discussion doesnt cut it.
    Quote Originally Posted by HereToStudy View Post
    I just quoted a discussion on it from a prohormone board, it is very fair.

  13. the average soda drinker likes pepsi over coca cola. I cant say that unless I have asked LOTS AND LOTS of average soda drinkers and hav evidence, not a few discussions. I know you know that man. Same as i cant say pp products suck because i havent used them, i can only say they are overpriced for ME, but DONT MAKE BROAD GENERALIZATIONS ABOUT YOUR PRODUCTS WITHOUT A TON OF USER FEEDBACK.
    Quote Originally Posted by Husker89 View Post
    1 discussion doesnt mean that the average user likes your product better. You are implying out of all the average users out there they all prefer your product without evidence, 1 discussion doesnt cut it.

  14. I just dont like how you say s/hit without paper backing. Its like i can say around 75000 people died of alcohol in america in 2008 because i have CDC stats. Or like YOU said to me, paraphrased "ball size is not an accurate gauge of hpta recovery you need bloods." So use this method of evidence in all your affairs. Saying the average steroid user prefers our products and then you show me ONE conversation about it like ur retarded dude. What you should say is "out of the steroid users that I know that have used both products, more prefer our product over the other." See how that works?
    Quote Originally Posted by HereToStudy View Post
    Again, your constant negativity in our threads is not going unnoticed, although it isn't surprising since you confessed to have a strong disdain for me.

    As requested:
    http://www.prohormoneforum.com/proho...androhard.html

    Happy?

  15. ^^^
    everyone is so serious on the internet?

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  16. you use evidence right? I see lots on your website. It is the best to try to stidck with this unless is someone asked for a personal experience so we can cut out the bro science
    Quote Originally Posted by MattPorter View Post
    ^^^
    everyone is so serious on the internet?

    -Matt

  17. Quote Originally Posted by Husker89 View Post
    I just dont like how you say s/hit without paper backing. Its like i can say around 75000 people died of alcohol in america in 2008 because i have CDC stats. Or like YOU said to me, paraphrased "ball size is not an accurate gauge of hpta recovery you need bloods." So use this method of evidence in all your affairs. Saying the average steroid user prefers our products and then you show me ONE conversation about it like ur retarded dude. What you should say is "out of the steroid users that I know that have used both products, more prefer our product over the other." See how that works?
    Testicular size is not an accurate gauge since Leydig cells are the primary source of the atrophy yet in only makes up ~10% of the content of the testes.


    Quote Originally Posted by Husker89 View Post
    you use evidence right? I see lots on your website. It is the best to try to stidck with this unless is someone asked for a personal experience so we can cut out the bro science
    Pretty sure that at no point was feedback implied to be on par with empirical evidence.
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  18. Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    Testicular size is not an accurate gauge since Leydig cells are the primary source of the atrophy yet in only makes up ~10% of the content of the testes.




    Pretty sure that at no point was feedback implied to be on par with empirical evidence.
    Interesting. So what causes the atrophy? Cause if they only make up 10% of your junk, the shrinkage should be minimal, is it like a placebo and its really just in your head?

  19. Quote Originally Posted by SPS View Post
    Interesting. So what causes the atrophy? Cause if they only make up 10% of your junk, the shrinkage should be minimal, is it like a placebo and its really just in your head?
    A lot of it is mental as evidenced by the dozens of threads of people saying they're atrophied after 2-3 days, but the typical 4-6 week cycle will not cause nearly as much as many claim (unless you're stacking multiple compounds that are very strong).
    M.Ed. Ex Phys


  20. Quote Originally Posted by Husker89 View Post
    i havent seen any
    He replied with one, I have seen others and we never implied anything I stated there was feedback and there is not to mention the research and science backing our side as well...really why such an agenda with us?


  21. Quote Originally Posted by Husker89 View Post
    what do you mean by "the average user has been more impressed with androhard"? References?
    Quote Originally Posted by Husker89 View Post
    you use evidence right? I see lots on your website. It is the best to try to stidck with this unless is someone asked for a personal experience so we can cut out the bro science
    Your quote here asks for personal experience...and you mention it is bro science which do you want? Try and find another company that puts the amount of scientific research into their products that we do


  22. it has nothing to do with your products people just cant claim things for whole groups of people without evidence
    Quote Originally Posted by ryansm View Post
    Your quote here asks for personal experience...and you mention it is bro science which do you want? Try and find another company that puts the amount of scientific research into their products that we do

  23. Quote Originally Posted by Husker89 View Post
    I just dont like how you say s/hit without paper backing. Its like i can say around 75000 people died of alcohol in america in 2008 because i have CDC stats. Or like YOU said to me, paraphrased "ball size is not an accurate gauge of hpta recovery you need bloods." So use this method of evidence in all your affairs. Saying the average steroid user prefers our products and then you show me ONE conversation about it like ur retarded dude. What you should say is "out of the steroid users that I know that have used both products, more prefer our product over the other." See how that works?
    You are a headache. You know, I so badly wanted to point out how ****ing stupid it is that you insist on using testicular size as a means to gauging HPTA shutdown, but I figured I would be nice since you were butthurt about the treatment I gave chocolate milk, but I see I missed my opportunity. Now you are nit-picking the way I state that our product is commonly reviewed as more effective? GTFO.

    Then you use the term bro science, LOL.
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  24. Whole lotta mad on this thread. Everyone chill!! (Mr. Freeze voice)

  25. About chocolatemilk you claimed that estrogen/progestrone/androgens all added together equals x amount of testosterone enanthate. I was pointing out how thats retarded and his statement of how you could have 400 of estrogen and 100 of androgen and still claim your product gives the same results as 500mg of test/enanthate a week is stupid. And how you constantly make ridiculous claims about your products. Your name shouldnt be heretostudy, it should be here to lie and decieve and act like ur here to help when you just want to sell products.
    Quote Originally Posted by HereToStudy View Post
    You are a headache. You know, I so badly wanted to point out how ****ing stupid it is that you insist on using testicular size as a means to gauging HPTA shutdown, but I figured I would be nice since you were butthurt about the treatment I gave chocolate milk, but I see I missed my opportunity. Now you are nit-picking the way I state that our product is commonly reviewed as more effective? GTFO.

    Then you use the term bro science, LOL.

  26. it is this whole lie about "im heretostudy, ask me questions il help you" and all you do is make s/hit up. But i know people like you so just keep doing it and ill keep calling you out. Its not against your products either i recommended one in another thread TODAY, its against u.
    Quote Originally Posted by HereToStudy View Post
    You are a headache. You know, I so badly wanted to point out how ****ing stupid it is that you insist on using testicular size as a means to gauging HPTA shutdown, but I figured I would be nice since you were butthurt about the treatment I gave chocolate milk, but I see I missed my opportunity. Now you are nit-picking the way I state that our product is commonly reviewed as more effective? GTFO.

    Then you use the term bro science, LOL.

  27. Bro, honestly not worth my time.
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  28. @ what HTS said.

    Anyways...
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  29. Yo Husker: Shhhhhh

  30. yo mike eat a d/ick
    Quote Originally Posted by Mike617 View Post
    Yo Husker: Shhhhhh

  31. ya thats pretty funny dude huh! I prefer arguments with facts and rationality but you can just post smiley faces if you want
    Quote Originally Posted by AaronJP1 View Post
    @ what HTS said.

    Anyways...

  32. ya thats what i would say too if i said estrogen and test can be counted as the same thing. idiot
    Quote Originally Posted by HereToStudy View Post
    Bro, honestly not worth my time.

  33. Quote Originally Posted by Husker89 View Post
    ya thats what i would say too if i said estrogen and test can be counted as the same thing. idiot
    Quote me on that.
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  34. Quote Originally Posted by Husker89
    ya thats what i would say too if i said estrogen and test can be counted as the same thing. idiot
    How do yu know they're products aren't any good? I doubt yuve tried any of them so how can you talk about em.i thin PP's products sound great.. One dose a day, minimal suppression,no lethargy and very little to no pct.. If OP is looking into using them he obviously has the money to do so.I would definitely do it but I'm just a broke ass college dude

  35. I never said they were bad f/aggot! I said they were good in another thread today. I just say i would use something else. In the other thread i said how they are safer and have better absorption than stano itself. So dont say i saidd their products are **** when i didnt, i did the opposite
    Quote Originally Posted by machorox123 View Post
    How do yu know they're products aren't any good? I doubt yuve tried any of them so how can you talk about em.i thin PP's products sound great.. One dose a day, minimal suppression,no lethargy and very little to no pct.. If OP is looking into using them he obviously has the money to do so.I would definitely do it but I'm just a broke ass college dude

  36. Quote Originally Posted by Husker89
    I never said they were bad f/aggot! I said they were good in another thread today. I just say i would use something else. In the other thread i said how they are safer and have better absorption than stano itself. So dont say i saidd their products are **** when i didnt, i did the opposite
    Namecalling really? Come on man.. Yu never directly say they suck but I constantly see yu trying to persuade people against them.. What's the beef? I don't understand . Ever stop to wonder why they're priced the way they are.. Maybe because of the amount of time research and effort put into making a quality product

  37. Quote Originally Posted by Husker89
    ya thats pretty funny dude huh! I prefer arguments with facts and rationality but you can just post smiley faces if you want
    Really mad about this huh?
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    Lift the fücking weight from the floor, or leave it on the ground. The thoughts are supposed to be daunting. The pain is meant to be tormenting.

  38. nope if you have an argument say it, dont just post smiley faces you know what i mean?
    Quote Originally Posted by AaronJP1 View Post
    Really mad about this huh?

  39. I feel they are overpriced and you can get the same or better results for far cheaper thats why i say that I wouldnt use them. Ya i have thought about why they are priced the way they are but i dont care, i still have to pay the cash. I pay for results not for how much research they did, thats their bad business decision.
    Quote Originally Posted by machorox123 View Post
    Namecalling really? Come on man.. Yu never directly say they suck but I constantly see yu trying to persuade people against them.. What's the beef? I don't understand . Ever stop to wonder why they're priced the way they are.. Maybe because of the amount of time research and effort put into making a quality product

  40. Quote Originally Posted by Husker89
    nope if you have an argument say it, dont just post smiley faces you know what i mean?
    Is this better?

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