- 05-18-2012, 12:37 PM
This is my first ever post and I hope I've put it in the right place.
I wanted to know everyone's opinions on this first cycle:
test e 500mg per week (split into 2 separate days) for weeks 1-10
Followed by nolva 40/40/20/20 for weeks 12-16.
Just a few things on my mind after doing a lot of research,
- I have read a few people saying that it is good to take dbol for weeks 1-4 to kick start the test,
whilst others have said for a first cycle test e alone is good enough
- I understand that adex should be kept on hand if required due to any gyno problems, and in such a situation
I will use 0.5mg every other day, but will it be beneficial to use alongside nolva as PCT?
- A few people have advised the use of nolva AND clomid whilst others have used nolva alone?
- I have also read of people taking winstrol in the last 4 or 5 weeks of the cycle would this be ideal?
- and finally should a HCG be used throughout the cycle or should it be kept on hand if required or avoided altogether?
- if so can anyone recommend HCG dose, frequency etc. and also where to get it from if possible
I am only going on my first cycle because I have been training for a while now and my body has plateaued so I require that little boost to get bulkier. I am not aiming for massive gains but a moderate 20lbs gain would be good enough. This is why I have asked about winstrol as I do not wish to be looking bloated at the end and would prefer
to get bigger but to keep lean.
I would not mind taking dbol anyway for the first 4 weeks but I have read of the acne problems on the back, and I
already quite acne prone so would rather do without.
Thank you to everyone who replies
- 05-18-2012, 12:53 PM
- 6'2" 300 lbs.
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- Jul 2003
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I'll speak to the HCG portion; I think it should absolutely be run during your cycle. 2 injections/week, 250iu per. Personally I like too see it run from day 1 of test to the last injection, but some advise waiting a couple weeks to begin. Either way, run it during.
During post cycle I'd add DAA and Erase or Erase Pro-I feel these 2 combined is one of the best PCT (or even standalone) combos out there for natty test and killing estrogen while reducing bloat.Don't worry, man, someday I'ma be nobody too.
- 05-18-2012, 01:08 PM
Thanks for the input, but do you think as a first cycle DAA and Erase Pro would be appropriate, I can see the benefits but I didn't want to be doing too much on my first cycle you know?
As for the HCG I think I actually will include it into the regime, just not sure when to take it at the minute. I have heard of others using it for 5 weeks only; 3 weeks before the last test injection and 2 weeks after, followed immediately by the PCT, but primarily my knowledge on HCG is not that great, in terms of how to purchase, mix and administer.
05-21-2012, 05:01 AM
How do I get more people to reply? Is this in the wrong section
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