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    First Cycle


    Dear All,
    This is my first ever post and I hope I've put it in the right place.
    I wanted to know everyone's opinions on this first cycle:
    test e 500mg per week (split into 2 separate days) for weeks 1-10
    Followed by nolva 40/40/20/20 for weeks 12-16.

    Just a few things on my mind after doing a lot of research,
    - I have read a few people saying that it is good to take dbol for weeks 1-4 to kick start the test,
    whilst others have said for a first cycle test e alone is good enough
    - I understand that adex should be kept on hand if required due to any gyno problems, and in such a situation
    I will use 0.5mg every other day, but will it be beneficial to use alongside nolva as PCT?
    - A few people have advised the use of nolva AND clomid whilst others have used nolva alone?
    - I have also read of people taking winstrol in the last 4 or 5 weeks of the cycle would this be ideal?
    - and finally should a HCG be used throughout the cycle or should it be kept on hand if required or avoided altogether?
    - if so can anyone recommend HCG dose, frequency etc. and also where to get it from if possible

    I am only going on my first cycle because I have been training for a while now and my body has plateaued so I require that little boost to get bulkier. I am not aiming for massive gains but a moderate 20lbs gain would be good enough. This is why I have asked about winstrol as I do not wish to be looking bloated at the end and would prefer
    to get bigger but to keep lean.
    I would not mind taking dbol anyway for the first 4 weeks but I have read of the acne problems on the back, and I
    already quite acne prone so would rather do without.

    Thank you to everyone who replies

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    I'll speak to the HCG portion; I think it should absolutely be run during your cycle. 2 injections/week, 250iu per. Personally I like too see it run from day 1 of test to the last injection, but some advise waiting a couple weeks to begin. Either way, run it during.

    During post cycle I'd add DAA and Erase or Erase Pro-I feel these 2 combined is one of the best PCT (or even standalone) combos out there for natty test and killing estrogen while reducing bloat.
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    Thanks for the input, but do you think as a first cycle DAA and Erase Pro would be appropriate, I can see the benefits but I didn't want to be doing too much on my first cycle you know?
    As for the HCG I think I actually will include it into the regime, just not sure when to take it at the minute. I have heard of others using it for 5 weeks only; 3 weeks before the last test injection and 2 weeks after, followed immediately by the PCT, but primarily my knowledge on HCG is not that great, in terms of how to purchase, mix and administer.
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