trenazone/havoc cycle

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by bigred6347
    think i should bump the cals up a bit more?
    I would see how lean u stay first, or if u get leaner.


  2. sounds good. cardio hasnt suffered either. 5-8 miles runs are going just like before cycle, though the back gets a bit of a pump i just have to not be a bitch about it and keep going. stationary bike is going like before cycle as well. we will see this week how rucking goes, that one might suck with back pumps.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by bigred6347
    sounds good. cardio hasnt suffered either. 5-8 miles runs are going just like before cycle, though the back gets a bit of a pump i just have to not be a bitch about it and keep going. stationary bike is going like before cycle as well. we will see this week how rucking goes, that one might suck with back pumps.
    What's rucking?

  4. Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Stri8ed View Post
    What's rucking?
    grab a rucksack (big back pack type thing with an external fram), load it with 55-75+ lbs, wear a bunch of other gear, grab your weapon, and start walking lol. 4mph minimum speed, generally closer to 5mph. and distances of anywhere between 6 and 30 miles.

  5. Quote Originally Posted by bigred6347

    grab a rucksack (big back pack type thing with an external fram), load it with 55-75+ lbs, wear a bunch of other gear, grab your weapon, and start walking lol. 4mph minimum speed, generally closer to 5mph. and distances of anywhere between 6 and 30 miles.
    Ahhhh yes I know what you're talking about now. Yeah that would suck ass with back pumps.
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  6. any sides from the tren? I'm currently getting ready for week 3 of hella/tren/stano, hella@ 100mg tomorrow, started having hair loss badly dropped the stano and tren... reduced the hair loss like crazy, now im adding back tren @ 1.5 and so far ok, thinking the DHT from stano was affecting me badly, now just minor shedding but if it gets worse again im going to have to keep tren out =[ Just curious if you having any other sides.

  7. Damn sorry to hear about the sheedding bro.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Stri8ed View Post
    Damn sorry to hear about the sheedding bro.
    I know, it sucked and freaked me out. I've done SD cycles even @ 30, no shedding. But this cycle bam. You thinking its stano (mainly?) I have caber on hand if I keep the tren back on.

  9. Yeah it was definitely the Stano.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Stri8ed View Post
    Yeah it was definitely the Stano.
    Good!! Now i'm less afraid to add the tren back in lol.

  11. Quote Originally Posted by SellMeSanity
    Good!! Now i'm less afraid to add the tren back in lol.
    Yeah I think u should b ok.

  12. no sides from either so far, just the hypo type feeling i mentioned earlier that was cured with an increase in carbs spread throughout the day but focusing on pre/post workout.

  13. Quote Originally Posted by bigred6347
    no sides from either so far, just the hypo type feeling i mentioned earlier that was cured with an increase in carbs spread throughout the day but focusing on pre/post workout.
    That's how I increase my carbs too, I find it more efficient for gaining mass but still staying lean.

  14. weighed myself today, up 4 lbs. stregnth is increasing, hypo sides have been solved, good stuff so far. back pumps are starting to kick in but nothing too bad so far. pumps overall in the gym are those awesome on cycle ones that everyone loves. feelin good

  15. Quote Originally Posted by bigred6347
    weighed myself today, up 4 lbs. stregnth is increasing, hypo sides have been solved, good stuff so far. back pumps are starting to kick in but nothing too bad so far. pumps overall in the gym are those awesome on cycle ones that everyone loves. feelin good
    Sweet. What day is it?

  16. Nice that's pretty good.

  17. ya i expect it to level out a bit but 15 pretty lean lbs is looking possible with this stack. muscles hardening up well. as far as aggression, when people say that i always kind of eyeroll. i think if youre a dbag pre cycle you'll be a dbag during youre cycle. definitely feeling great though and starting to get that nice on top of the world feeling. ive run test, tren, and drol between two previous cycles about 3 years ago and those never made me "aggressive" either, just made me feel godlike. if they ever come out for a ph to drol ill be the first to buy though. i never had any poor sides from it just massive strength and good mass gains.

  18. Quote Originally Posted by bigred6347
    ya i expect it to level out a bit but 15 pretty lean lbs is looking possible with this stack. muscles hardening up well. as far as aggression, when people say that i always kind of eyeroll. i think if youre a dbag pre cycle you'll be a dbag during youre cycle. definitely feeling great though and starting to get that nice on top of the world feeling. ive run test, tren, and drol between two previous cycles about 3 years ago and those never made me "aggressive" either, just made me feel godlike. if they ever come out for a ph to drol ill be the first to buy though. i never had any poor sides from it just massive strength and good mass gains.
    Lol why did u go to the PH/DS route this time? Test, tren and drol equals HOLY SH*T bro hahaha.

  19. Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Stri8ed View Post
    Lol why did u go to the PH/DS route this time? Test, tren and drol equals HOLY SH*T bro hahaha.
    lol the current job situation. i didnt run test/tren/drol as a cycle. one was test/drol and one was test/tren. all three would make for a holy **** cycle though lol.

  20. Quote Originally Posted by bigred6347

    lol the current job situation. i didnt run test/tren/drol as a cycle. one was test/drol and one was test/tren. all three would make for a holy **** cycle though lol.
    F*ck yeah cuz the tren seems almost synergistic with the drol, u got dry tren to help keep that hard look despite the wetness from the drol, and then you're throwing cars and sh*t. But all u have to do is play with your AI dose and BAM you're still dry.

  21. Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Stri8ed View Post
    F*ck yeah cuz the tren seems almost synergistic with the drol, u got dry tren to help keep that hard look despite the wetness from the drol, and then you're throwing cars and sh*t. But all u have to do is play with your AI dose and BAM you're still dry.
    you run that cycle before?

  22. Quote Originally Posted by bigred6347

    you run that cycle before?
    No my boy did and I monitored him, I was blown away at his results. He kept his bp in check and everything went smooth.

  23. Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Stri8ed View Post
    No my boy did and I monitored him, I was blown away at his results. He kept his bp in check and everything went smooth.
    how much mass did he put on with that stack? his strength was probably ridiculous to

  24. Quote Originally Posted by bigred6347

    how much mass did he put on with that stack? his strength was probably ridiculous to
    He put on 40 pounds and kept 30, it was some hulk type sh*t.
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