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Quick question on 1-test/4ad ratio

  1.  10-06-2004  05:20 PM
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    Quick question on trans 1-test/4ad ratio


    What ratio of transdermal 1-test to transdermal 4ad do you guys recommend as being optimal?
    Last edited by handzilla; 10-06-2004 at 06:47 PM.



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    I've used equal parts, some people do 2:1 ratio. For example, Dermablics S1+ is 3g 1-T and 4.5g 4-AD. If your're doing this for your "buddy" cycle I'd suggest 2:1; the M1,4 will make it very wet.

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    Originally Posted by silverSurfer
    I've used equal parts, some people do 2:1 ratio. For example, Dermablics S1+ is 3g 1-T and 4.5g 4-AD. If your're doing this for your "buddy" cycle I'd suggest 2:1; the M1,4 will make it very wet.
    So 2mg of 1-test for every 1mg of 4ad or other way around?

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    Originally Posted by handzilla
    So 2mg of 1-test for every 1mg of 4ad or other way around?
    That's right. The more 4ad, the wetter your cycle will be. If using only the two, the 1:1 ratio is what a lot of bro's here have used in the past. If using in addition to M1,4 then lower the 4ad as silver suggested. Unless you want a wet cycle.

  6.  10-07-2004  09:06 AM
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    Originally Posted by Cuffs
    That's right. The more 4ad, the wetter your cycle will be. If using only the two, the 1:1 ratio is what a lot of bro's here have used in the past. If using in addition to M1,4 then lower the 4ad as silver suggested. Unless you want a wet cycle.
    What if I add hydroxyteset to the mix that way the ratio of hydroxy/1-test/4ad is 1/1/2?

  7.  10-07-2004  10:49 AM
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    Sounds good, actually I would make it 1,2,1


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    Maybe I shouldn't have bought that LGP 1-T hydroxytest after all.

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    No, it is always better to do it yourself - me thinks.
    I had to adjust mine a couple of times because the M1,4 made my cycle "wetter" than I expected. Cuffs did point that out in my inquiry: http://www.anabolicminds.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=17834

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    2:2:1 ratio (1-t:4-ad:4oht) Works the best for me

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    for those of us who suffer badly from the lethergy, is there an optimal ratio to combat it? and will the 4oht help at all? also, can anything else be stacked to help out? i've done t-1 and t-1 pro cycles and homebrewed in various ratios and i still get pounded with lethergy. i'm thinking i may need to look at some alternatives.

    Originally Posted by DmitryWI
    2:2:1 ratio (1-t:4-ad:4oht) Works the best for me

  12.  10-11-2004  09:25 AM
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    Yes the 4oht will help, and maybe you can try a methyl during the stack that helps in the energy department such as m4ohn, or m5aa.


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    Originally Posted by handzilla
    Maybe I shouldn't have bought that LGP 1-T hydroxytest after all.
    Maybe the ratio is fine for you, but you dont have any flexibility to adjust it during the course of your cycle.

    I'm thinking to do a similar stack (1-T, 4AD, 4-OHT) in 1:1,5:1* ratio.

    (*Being 4oht oral it should be equivalent to about the half than in trans, the figure above is half of the actual dose i will take)

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