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  1.  04-19-2012  06:27 PM
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    Beginner Test-E Cycle


    Hey guys, I'm going to be starting my first cycle pretty soon and just want to make sure I'm doing this right. I have an appointment to get a blood test done next week to ensure all my levels are optimal before running. I will also be following up with another blood test once the cycle is complete.

    Right now, my plan is to run:

    Test E - 500mg / week for 12 weeks
    Arimidex - .5mg ED for 12 weeks

    PCT (Nolvadex) - 40/40/20/20 starting with week 14

    How does this look? Any advice is appreciated!



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    Originally Posted by aesthetix View Post
    For a 12 week cycle something like 40/40/20/20/10/10/0/0 with Erase at: 0/0/3/3/3/2/1 would be my reccomendation.

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    Originally Posted by gregg1494

    here ya go
    I'm a little confused by the numbers and what they mean. Could you explain a little more please? Also what is "erase"? Thanks again.

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    I believe the first set of #s is the nolvadex dosage. Each number represents how many milligrams you should take everyday for that week. Erase is a supplement by PES it'll help prevent estrogen rebound while your tapering down off the nolva.

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    Originally Posted by cashinova87 View Post
    I believe the first set of #s is the nolvadex dosage. Each number represents how many milligrams you should take everyday for that week. Erase is a supplement by PES it'll help prevent estrogen rebound while your tapering down off the nolva.
    Oh okay, makes sense. Guess it wouldn't hurt to run the PCT a bit longer. Thanks again guys, very much appreciated! If anyone else has any other advice, please chime in!

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    Is the Adex recommended at .5mg ED or EOD?

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    Hey guys, looking at running Test E 250mg/wk for 10 weeks. I'm not stacking with d-bol or anything else. But I do have a concern about the PCT. I'm reading a lot of different info and it's not making a whole lot of sense and I'm also getting different names to read about. I gather that I start PCT 2 weeks after my last inject, running Nolva and Clomid.
    So what does my schedule look like?

    Test E weeks 1-10 250mg per week (split between 2 injects per week)
    weeks 12-14 nolva
    weeks 12-16 clomid?

    I;m not sure and want it to be done right, are those the right weeks and what are the doses? thanks.

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    Well bro you don't need to run both nolva and clomid. Just one will work fine. Run it 4 weeks minimum but you can run it like 5-6 if need be. Have something like erase or exemestane to prevent estrogen rebound. Run the estane or erase a week or 2 past last nolva dose to make sure there won't be a rebound.

    Also pick some sort of test booster I like DAA (d-aspartic-acid). A test booster can be a good addition.
    The advice I give is just that... Advice, purely my opinion. Not medical advice

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    Originally Posted by aesthetix
    Is the Adex recommended at .5mg ED or EOD?
    .5mg ed for the first week to build a solid blood level then .5mg EOD. Its half-life is 46 hours after you have stable blood levels. Remember it can't be used with nolva (at the same time) because they fight over receptors....
    The advice I give is just that... Advice, purely my opinion. Not medical advice

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    Originally Posted by DangerDave

    .5mg ed for the first week to build a solid blood level then .5mg EOD. Its half-life is 46 hours after you have stable blood levels. Remember it can't be used with nolva (at the same time) because they fight over receptors....
    Got it. Thanks!

    So two weeks after my last pin ill do

    40/40/20/20/10/10/0/0 nolva
    0/0/3/3/3/2/1/1 erase

    How does that look?

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    looks good. throw in some daa as well

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    You need a T-booster in your PCT as already suggested. A generic DAA works well and is cheap. HCGenerate is also used often, but it's a little pricy. I typically run both.

    You need to run 500iu of HCG while on cycle. HCG keeps the brain sending a message to the testes telling them to continue to produce testosterone allowing your balls to stay fuller and typically allows for a quicker recovery during PCT. Inject 250iu e3d using an insulin needle at whatever gauge you want. Keep it refrigerated and out of the light!
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    Originally Posted by xtreme1087 View Post
    You need a T-booster in your PCT as already suggested. A generic DAA works well and is cheap. HCGenerate is also used often, but it's a little pricy. I typically run both.

    You need to run 500iu of HCG while on cycle. HCG keeps the brain sending a message to the testes telling them to continue to produce testosterone allowing your balls to stay fuller and typically allows for a quicker recovery during PCT. Inject 250iu e3d using an insulin needle at whatever gauge you want. Keep it refrigerated and out of the light!
    I'll pick up a DAA also look into getting the HCGenerate as well. When should these two be taken? Start of PCT, just before, or entire cycle?

    I was under the impression that HCG wasn't necessary. Will I be ok without it?

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    Originally Posted by xtreme1087 View Post
    You need a T-booster in your PCT as already suggested. A generic DAA works well and is cheap. HCGenerate is also used often, but it's a little pricy. I typically run both.

    You need to run 500iu of HCG while on cycle. HCG keeps the brain sending a message to the testes telling them to continue to produce testosterone allowing your balls to stay fuller and typically allows for a quicker recovery during PCT. Inject 250iu e3d using an insulin needle at whatever gauge you want. Keep it refrigerated and out of the light!
    Fadogia is the main ingredient in HCGenerate, you can look that up and buy it alone for like $25. Everything looks good to me brother good luck and keep up the research looks like you are doin' it right
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/198301-first-cycle-log.html

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    Erase is an AI to help reduce estrogen rebound. You could also add in some MK-2866 or Osta RX so you don't feel abnormally weak while on PCT. I would definitely grab some DAA.

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    Originally Posted by aesthetix View Post
    I'll pick up a DAA also look into getting the HCGenerate as well. When should these two be taken? Start of PCT, just before, or entire cycle?

    I was under the impression that HCG wasn't necessary. Will I be ok without it?
    Yes I think you can be fine w out it, but apparently it makes PCT much easier and puts your boys in a position to go back to normal much faster. Keep in mind I'm doing my first cycle right now two weeks in. Here's what I'm doing HCG-wise:

    HCG 250IU 2 times per week (week 4-9)
    HCG 500IU 2 times per week (week 10-11)

    Some might say you need more, but this works out to one 5000IU vial so I think it makes sense. If you get the raw HCG (unmixed & not in water so not injectable), they sell some good HCG kits on Amazon real cheap too that includes mixing vials / ~40 insulin needles / empty vial / bacteriostatic water etc. everything you'll need. I'll be mixing mine in two weeks and pop it in the fridge.
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/198301-first-cycle-log.html

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    Originally Posted by Harry Seaward View Post
    Fadogia is the main ingredient in HCGenerate, you can look that up and buy it alone for like $25. Everything looks good to me brother good luck and keep up the research looks like you are doin' it right
    Good advice!

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    Originally Posted by Harry Seaward View Post
    Fadogia is the main ingredient in HCGenerate, you can look that up and buy it alone for like $25. Everything looks good to me brother good luck and keep up the research looks like you are doin' it right
    I'll remember that. Thanks a ton!

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    Originally Posted by Axillist View Post
    Erase is an AI to help reduce estrogen rebound. You could also add in some MK-2866 or Osta RX so you don't feel abnormally weak while on PCT. I would definitely grab some DAA.
    Should I be using DAA the entire cycle and during PCT or just during PCT? Thanks again guys!

    Originally Posted by Harry Seaward View Post
    Yes I think you can be fine w out it, but apparently it makes PCT much easier and puts your boys in a position to go back to normal much faster. Keep in mind I'm doing my first cycle right now two weeks in. Here's what I'm doing HCG-wise:

    HCG 250IU 2 times per week (week 4-9)
    HCG 500IU 2 times per week (week 10-11)

    Some might say you need more, but this works out to one 5000IU vial so I think it makes sense. If you get the raw HCG (unmixed & not in water so not injectable), they sell some good HCG kits on Amazon real cheap too that includes mixing vials / ~40 insulin needles / empty vial / bacteriostatic water etc. everything you'll need. I'll be mixing mine in two weeks and pop it in the fridge.
    How legit are the online sources selling HCG for "research purposes"?

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    Don't bother with hcg. You won't need it with your cycle. Its for long cycles that can shut you down hard.

    Start taking daa a week prior to pct @ 3g everyday and you will be fine.

    If you want to throw titanium xl on top of daa that would stack real nice. I did for a pct and along with a SERM I was back fast as fock.
    The advice I give is just that... Advice, purely my opinion. Not medical advice

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