Beginner Test-E Cycle

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by DangerDave
    I would run it up to the nolva. If they overlap its no big deal man. The nolva will actually make the adex less potent and eventually push it out of your system. That's why its pointless to run at the same time.
    Got it. thanks bro!

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  2. Quote Originally Posted by aesthetix

    Got it. thanks bro!

    Harry seaward- clear your inbox man! Haha
    No problem man
    The advice I give is just that... Advice, purely my opinion. Not medical advice
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by DangerDave View Post
    Hcg is not required its recommended. Shutdown is shutdown but its easier to come back from being shutdown by one compound. There is so much bunk hcg out there plus for a new user only running 1 or 2 compounds its a lot of work. Different pins, mixing, getting the water, more vials plus 2 more injections in a week...it can be too much.
    You're right, HCG is not required at all, it's just a precaution I feel more comfortable with. I can't say I agree on it being "too much." I see what you're saying, but IMHO if a person can't mix a bottle of HCG together and take an extra minute total a week to pin it, maybe they're not ready for a cycle? AAS are strong stuff and hard on the body and I like knowing I am doing what I can to take care of it to bring it back to full recovery as efficiently as possible. I'd rather advise someone to use it and not need it than advise them not to use it and wind up in a crappy recovery during PCT. Each to there own, broski! Rep sent your way for helping a brother out!
    Kill The Man To Become The Monster

  4. Thanks man. I agree with you. I have a bunch stockpiled after I found a legit brand to use. I see it as a great addition to a cycle. It is one of those things that is almost case by case. Test e at 500mg ew for 12 weeks may shut me down harder than you or vise versa. Or if I run 3 compounds stacked with an oral kicker I see I definite reason to use hcg. But if you tried it and can come back from a one compound run I don't see needing it as much. Does that make sense what I'm getting at?

    Either way I agree with you and I personally will include it in cycles to come. A legit brand will get you the results you need and I would rather recover from a multi compound heavy cycle in 4-5 weeks compared to 6+ lol
    The advice I give is just that... Advice, purely my opinion. Not medical advice

  5. Im in the middle of PCT after the exact same cycle youre lookin at doing. I wouldn't take the AI unless you start noticing some sides, it isn't necessary the whole cycle if you're doing good already and you could end up knocking your estrogen down too low. I say like I was advised just to keep it on tap in case.

    As far as your pct I've heard HCG helps you recover faster and I may try it next time during cycle but it's not really necessary either. My dÓck was a useless flap for the first two weeks of pct and I had no sex drive or ambition to lift. Right now I'm on day 3 of 3rd week and my sex drive and junk is up and thriving again for last two days. If HCG helps avoid that two week hump then I say it's worth it (ecspecialy if it helps you keep strength/gains up) cus the last two weeks have sucked and I'm just now getting motivation back to lift, fuk and less irritable. My pct is as follows

    Nolva 40/20/20/10
    DAA ed
    Bulgarian trib ed (had it sittin around so I figured it couldnt hurt whether it helps or not.)

    Keep it simple if you can get away with it the first time around is how I feel so you know what you respond to or not and can build off it later the next time so you avoid taking stuff now you may not even need and pollute your body more then you are already.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by mikeg313
    Im in the middle of PCT after the exact same cycle youre lookin at doing. I wouldn't take the AI unless you start noticing some sides, it isn't necessary the whole cycle if you're doing good already and you could end up knocking your estrogen down too low. I say like I was advised just to keep it on tap in case.

    As far as your pct I've heard HCG helps you recover faster and I may try it next time during cycle but it's not really necessary either. My dÓck was a useless flap for the first two weeks of pct and I had no sex drive or ambition to lift. Right now I'm on day 3 of 3rd week and my sex drive and junk is up and thriving again for last two days. If HCG helps avoid that two week hump then I say it's worth it (ecspecialy if it helps you keep strength/gains up) cus the last two weeks have sucked and I'm just now getting motivation back to lift, fuk and less irritable. My pct is as follows

    Nolva 40/20/20/10
    DAA ed
    Bulgarian trib ed (had it sittin around so I figured it couldnt hurt whether it helps or not.)

    Keep it simple if you can get away with it the first time around is how I feel so you know what you respond to or not and can build off it later the next time so you avoid taking stuff now you may not even need and pollute your body more then you are already.
    The reason I want to stick with the AI in the beginning is because I know I'm already prone to gyno issues. I had it surgically removed about 9 months ago.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by aesthetix View Post
    The reason I want to stick with the AI in the beginning is because I know I'm already prone to gyno issues. I had it surgically removed about 9 months ago.
    in to hear a response on this...

    I'm within a couple weeks of starting my 1st cycle nearly identical to yours (mine is only 10 weeks), I have everything but nolva & HCG but I can get that no prob... the only thing i've been worrying about is my pre-existing pubertal gyno. I just don't want it to get any worse than it is

  8. Quote Originally Posted by aesthetix

    The reason I want to stick with the AI in the beginning is because I know I'm already prone to gyno issues. I had it surgically removed about 9 months ago.
    Just dose the adex .5mg ED for 1 week to get good blood levels. Then take .5mg eod till end of cycle. You should be good. If you have to dose it up to 1mg but I doubt you will have to.
    The advice I give is just that... Advice, purely my opinion. Not medical advice

  9. If Adex and Nolva dont mix, how long Adex should be stopped in order to start Nolva and Clomid?
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