tommyboy
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How important is it to front load the first dosage for the first 2 weeks????????
I front loaded on my last two cycles. I will not be doing that againg. i think it is a waste of gear.
I'm considering a cycle of injectables right now. I had heard about front loading, didn't make much sense to me as the half life/release etc is the same, so you'd have to pump tons of the **** into you. I had heard a more effective approach was either a shorter ester or a base injection, or that sometimes it's more economical/easier to use an transdermal/oral for two weeks until the injectable kicks in.I think he meant frontloading with higher doses of the long-estered gear is a waste, and I feel he is pretty much right on the money there... Upping the dose of a long estered product won't get you results faster IMHO.
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I'll say just add a short estered product to jump with.. I used to be the frontload spokesperson, until I actually tried it..
If it's test cyp/enanthate, jump with 100mg prop EOD for 5 weeks.. Besides, you should extend the run by 2wks if you want any good gains from it..
its 1 test cyp/ sledge test and i dont have HCG..... should I still extend it big pete fox?
So mathew you think 400mg of prop for 4 weeks should be good for a kick starter before a long acting ester would kick in?frontloading is to get the levels up in your blood stream faster. In most long ester products you have a window of about 4-6 weeks where levels are building in your blood stream and you are getting some benefits but not the entire benefit of the product.
IF you front load test, I suggest you use a faster acting ester like test prop to be your kick starter.
Fist, I would like to hear your situation about why you think it is a waste of gear..
That sounds like a lot to inject at once. Different sites or just all at once?I just front loaded this cycle. Last week i did 1000mg test E on day one then I'm doing 250mg every 3.5 days. This is my first time doing it. I feel "on" the first week and want to screw every woman I see.
Which site do you find more comfortable, btw?Two different sites! I did half in my glute and then later that day I hit my quad.
Will almost certainly do it. It's either than or kickstart with dbol, and I don't really want to order more gear (it's fuarking stressful).You can't get a straight answer. It's all bro science. Half the people will say do it and the other half say don't. I think you should do it and see what works best for you. If you don't try then you will never know. I started my exemestane with it though just to be safe. I'm glad I did it though. I feel like I'm on already after 1 week.
I actually thought about running Trest for the first 4 weeks. Seems logical to me. You going to run it for the full cycle?Probably still take a couple weeks. I gained ten pounds the first week but I'm also taking trestolone and hexadrone. Just feeling good would be worth it to me though. I personally don't like Dbol and I know I'm odd for that but it makes me feel fat and bloated and I look like ****.
Sounds logical. This is going to be my very first injectible cycle, so I can't really speak from experience.If you are on test then you can't get anymore shutdown. That is mostly for people running a cycle without test and having to deal with the sides of being shutdown. If you are taking test you won't have to feel those side effects of being shut down. 3-4 month cycle is going to require a serious PCT no matter if you just ran test alone. I'm going to use triptorelin in this PCT.
Thanks man. Will take your advice then and stick to the test only.If you take trest you have to have caber or prami on hand because it can increase prolactin which can cause boobs, it also aromitise so estrogen has to be kept in check or you can get boobs. You have to have ancillary drugs on deck to run it safely. Not really a beginner steroid and you should do alot of research before you run it so you can be safe and not have unwanted sides.
Yeah, all I have so far is exemstane, some left over Adex and then Nolva. Don't want to be fighting 12 different sides on this one.Yes, I spent more on the ancillary meds then the trest. :-( Test only cycle is about the safest bet and my first cycle of test was awesome! You will get great gains.