- 04-09-2012, 09:10 PM
waddup, this is going to be my 2nd cycle. my first was epi and i had great results loved the supp ut had time maintaining all my muscle and my cutness. i used nolva and daa with some trib for pct. anyway i plan on runnin androbulk for 4 weeks followed by a pct from pp. im yrying to make this a veey clean, lean bulk. by that i mean i am going to run a lot do tons of abs, swim and prob throw in some cla. mmy side supps are going to consist of 100 percent whey, concrete creatine, flax oil and prob some milk thistle. i am going to start thisncycle later this week or possibly monday. is there anything io can add/ take out of my cycle to make it better? thanks for the advice and i will try and update the log everyday when i start.
- 04-21-2012, 11:33 AM
whats up so bouta start this log.
updates: 5 days in on 4 pills a day of androbulk and first day of 300 mgs p-stanz.
what to note so far- slight agression and scale weight up about a pound
i cant wait to see how the pstanz is gonna treat me
Also for more experienced users would it be cool to dose the bulk and the p-stanz once daily for less supprssion?
off to the gym for back abs and cardio. last question is if i am gonna be workin out 5 days a week how would you guys split up each day?
thanks for the help
- 04-21-2012, 02:12 PM
so today was horrible. i went to the gym stretched a ton and after doing my second set of pull ups i must have strained my trap or somthing bc its klling me. i couldent workout at all and everytikme i move my neck i get sharp pains. is this due to the p-stanz? my guess is not since i just started tkain today but how long will this hurt??
04-21-2012, 02:22 PM
04-21-2012, 02:42 PM
pp pct and daa .... guys im startin to bug about my trap/neck. its rele hurting and im afraid this will screw with my cycle.
04-21-2012, 03:34 PM
04-21-2012, 03:40 PM
i hope so cuz right now i cnt move my neck. i dont want to stop my stack but idk its rele hurting after tons of icyhot real ice and heating pads
04-21-2012, 06:09 PM
if i wake up and it feels like it does now i feel like im gonna need to take at least week off. since im still at beggining of stack should i just cut it if it feels like crap tommorow and start up when it feels better?
04-22-2012, 10:39 AM
feels like **** today, do i stop the phs? i feel like im gonna need at least 5 days off
04-22-2012, 10:44 AM
But, I wouldn't stop personally. I do legs and cardio, abs, ... could turn that into 2 days lifting and 2 off days for a total of 4 days out the magic 5 you think it would take to heal and that seems "normal"
04-22-2012, 11:05 AM
04-22-2012, 10:02 PM
Its hard to say for sure. If you drop it and it is fine tomorrow, you will regret it. Conversely if you don't drop it, and you are not fine in the near future, it will feel like a waste.
04-22-2012, 10:04 PM
stickin wit the stack. my neck feels way better from this monring so i can only imgiane tommorow, im sure in two- three days it will be gone hopfully. So here goes today was 2nd day on p-stanz and 7th day on andorbulk, nothin at all to note. but jw do you think 300 mgs is a good amount of p-stanz or to high?
04-22-2012, 10:57 PM
04-23-2012, 02:05 PM
In to follow, hopefully your neck is feeling better
04-23-2012, 02:05 PM
so today my neck is feeling better, im gonna go to chirpracter now hoping he will stretch it out a little and hopfully hitting the gym tommorow. still no sides and i dosed the p-stanz at 150 mgs this morning and will doing another 150mgs before bed. and nyone have any imput on if 300 mgs is good amount of p-stanz or if its to much
04-23-2012, 06:35 PM
good day today, went to the chiropractor he said my trap is deff strained and some other stuff i wasn't to sure bout but the good thing is he stretched it gave me the ok for legs tomorrow and said he thinks i will be fine to do upper body in 2days anyway just had some Sea-bass small portion of brown rice half a banana and half a cucumber. i wanna hit the gym so bad lol, im gonna head there sit in the sauna and hopfully do some abs maybe even a little cardio if it doesn't hurt. i cant help but think this time off from the gym is wasting my ph, im sure its just in my head... oh and just dosed my second dose of the p-stanz. will report back tonight or tomorrow
04-25-2012, 12:09 AM
04-25-2012, 11:22 AM
04-25-2012, 10:38 PM
idk if anyones even reading this therad but i feel a need to post anyway. killed back and bis today .
lat pull downs 3x 8-10
deadlifts 4x 8-10
bent barbell rows 3x 8-10
dumbell rows 3x 8-10 and l
at extensions 3x 6-8.
barbell curls 4x 8-10
close grip preachers 3x 8
i had great intensity today and started to notice first side effect. aggression and arrogance ... oh and my boy told me my bis looked bigger since i frist started the cycle which i have noticed as well. not to much but slightly, and some acne but nothin to crazzzy. and pleasee someone help me with the p-stanz i think 350 is good amount but i rele would like to be reinsured
04-26-2012, 12:59 AM
04-26-2012, 01:27 AM
300-350 mg is more than enough for p-stanz, I think you'll see a nice leaning up with the addition of that for the 5.5 weeks.
If you wanted to you could even lower the dosage, even into the 200-250 mg range and still see good results. I actually think 150 mg might be the suggested starting point. Doing so would enable you to extend the cycle, although I dont know how much longer you want to run the cycle past completion of the AndroBulk.
04-26-2012, 01:29 AM
Also, 3x a day dosing is correct, p-stanz has a shorter half-life. If you experience any sleep problems then just take that last dose a little earlier, maybe with dinner or something.
04-26-2012, 02:53 PM
04-26-2012, 02:55 PM
thanks for the info im dosing 3 times a day and im gonna stick with 350. i rele want to lean out with this bulk and have 3 bottles so imight aswell just stick with 350
04-26-2012, 03:11 PM
04-26-2012, 04:40 PM
I have no idea what the dosing is for pstanz but from what I recall 150mgs is the starting point so 350 seems a bit high
04-26-2012, 05:13 PM
true that lol cant be extending it for p-stanz alone. and at 350 mgs what type of gains am i looking at bc i have been reading some forums that take a sh*t on the bulk. im not worrying yet bc iv only been on it 10 days but i expect a significant amount of gains bc its so damn expensive, if not im gonna be pissed.
oh and a side not day 10 and my diet has been amazing. no bad food at all 6-7 small meals all including either eggs,fish,or meat, and iv gained no weight thus far. when i took epi my diet was not half of what it is now and i remeber gaining 3 pounds the first week on it
sides- acne is gettin slightly worse and aggression is starting to get somewhat intense. iv been snapping at everything
04-26-2012, 10:33 PM
great workout today. intensity was through the roof and i was gettin so mad when pple would try to hold me up by talking. but i did shoulders tris today...
barbell raises 4x 8
upright barbell rows supseted with lat raises 3x 8-10 3x 8
front raises 3x 8bent over deltiod raises 4x 8-10
close grip 3x 8
skullcruhsers 3x 10
cable pulldowns 3x 6-10 drop setted with 8-12
and stocked up on some supps. animal pack (will be replacing my megamen multi) ON amino 2222 and modern bcaas ..... lets gooooooo
no futher sides to report other then my 6 pack loooks better then it did two weeks ago thats for sur, idk if its from dieting swiming and doing a ton of abs or from the supps but i doubt it as im only about 10 days in
04-27-2012, 12:42 AM
04-27-2012, 11:10 AM
04-27-2012, 12:01 PM
just had some skirt steak with brown rice two tabs of amino 2222 by ON (i am taking two tabs with all meals ... that good?) my animal pack concrete creatine and a table spoon of flax. honestly having a great alpha feeling. walking around with such confidence i love it and feel like fighting all the time. agression is still high
taking today off and doing full body tommorow. its gonna look somthing like
squats 3x 10
deadlifts 4x 8-10
powercleans (if i can do them, they might irratte my trap)3x 6-8
weighted pullups 3x 8
possibly throw in some iso after bc my routine works that i get friday and sunday off. my routine it is as follows
MOnday: chest and bicep
Thurs: shoulders tricep
Saturday: full body
iv never tried combining bicep and chest and have never had a full body day so looking forward to changing it up wile on cycle. and usually i workout 6 days a week so i figure ill prob go on sunday for abs cardio sauna.
04-27-2012, 12:39 PM
04-28-2012, 02:33 PM
04-28-2012, 03:32 PM
04-28-2012, 03:41 PM
on another note i had a ****ty as day at the gym. weights felt heavy and i seemed pretty lethargic, on the uphand aggression is still there and acne does not apear to be getting worse
04-28-2012, 04:19 PM
plus one pound today, having a rough day dont know if its girl problems or what but feeling like crapp and very tired!!!!
04-28-2012, 05:06 PM
boys i might be in for an unexpected treat.... my boy whos runnin a epi p-stanz cycle (which i rele wish i did due to the price of androbulk) said he might be down to split a bottle of the androbulk and run it his last two weeks with the epi and p-stanz. if he does that i can afford to pay for half a bottle i think, can any pp reps send me a coupon for the bulk pleasee. i have invested so much $ into this stack already and the most expensive things were the androbulk and the pp pct. i know there safe and effective products but a tad bit pricey. if you can help with a coupon that would be fantastic. if i get this bottle i can start taking 6 a day tommorow of the androbulk bc i will order more tommorow and it will take a week tops to come in.
04-28-2012, 07:55 PM
That's odd, it went from "sounding like a money scam" to being a safe and effective product that you would like to purchase more of in a matter of hours. Out of my experience PP products are safe non-methyl pro hormone with minimal suppression. I don't feel like I get huge gains from them like some designers that we are all familiar with. In no way do I feel like pp is a scam or is trying to rip people off. I applaud them for generating a new line of safer prohormones and with new technology comes more $$$
04-29-2012, 02:23 AM
maybe i went a little far wit it but my only point is that the suggested amount of androbulk is 440$ as opposed to epi which would cost at most 70$ and probably would notice slightly better results from it,, but i wasn't tying to put pp down like you said its great they are providing a safer way to do things . i was just saying i think its a tad bit over priced due to the effectiveness of other phs that are much cheaper.
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