Log of EPIC by FRL - http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/202576-should-epic-frl.html
I was looking for something legal. I am not able to obtain illegal AAS. I dont have gym connections and I'm not willing to try the mail order route, at least not yet.
As for the old 4-ad, it's no longer available, legally anywhere is it?
Idk I am still up in the air with OTC test products you have no idea how much conversion you are getting and could end up getting very little and shelling out $40 for nothing. You may not even need a test base for epi I am on week 3 right now and i feel great with no test base. Felt horrible lethargy at this time when I ran hdrol. Loving epi so far tho (running it at 40 mg)
4androsterone/ 4ad rde from AMS.
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you can try to keep your own test levels up with hcgen or bulk daa, start 2 weeks before cycle and run through pct. Depending on the dose of epi and cycle length it may prevent shutdown. In turn less lethargy and libido issues and smoother pct. You can find daa in bulk for around 15 bucks for 200 grams. The idea is to piggyback your natty test levels, but the ph/ds cycle length and dose play a role in how long shut down takes
I say stack it with Phera. Yes I know it was banned however for whatever reason it is relatively easy to get your hands on along with x-tren - hassle-free I might add.
Pheraplex has a good anabolic:androgenic ratio. It is nearly twice as androgenic as testosterone and has only little conversion to estrogen. Someone needs to modify this compound, molecularly fix the conversion issue altogether, and put it on the market again. It was and is a fantastic mass builder.
I never understood the difference. What people call prohormones are usually designer steroids so what is an actual PH?Originally Posted by bigdavid
and your friends just aren't dosing it properly. you think 40 bucks is gonna get you anything from a 2 step pro hormone? no.
you'll need at the least 2 bottles for a 4 week cycle, and more if you want to run 6-8 weeks.
you can use pp's andromass, it's good stuff, and one bottle is enough for a nice test base. but i'd rather have 2 of theirs as well.
Great thread ! In about to be using a bottle of forerunner labs alpha mass at recommended dosage on bottle for 4 weeks and a bottle of 4ad rde the new one at half dose for 4 weeks then at normal for 2 weeks while on epi/tren for 4 weeks. So I'll see how this goes first hand