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    M drol Log- Success


    Completed 8 days of m drol so far at 10mg a day. It is my first Ph and has proven helpful. went from 181.6 to 186.6 in a week as well as a couple 5 pound increases on compound lifts.

    Side effects for the first week- High blood pressure (10 point increase, 135/76 to 145/75/) bloody noses, minor periods of feeling lethargic, no gyno signs or sensitivity.

    Started week 2 today at 20 mg a day. hope for 5 more pounds and strength gains.

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    careful with that blood pressure. that's getting pretty high, especially if you are getting nose bleeds on only 10mg. 20 mg will only show more side effects.
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    agreed, i bought a bp checker at walgreens to monitor it.
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    What's your supports look like bruh? Pct?
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    unfortunately supports are minimum as I check up with my doctor reguarly and i am a health nut. so i just run liver52 and milkthistle as support.
    for PCT
    clomind 100/50/25/25
    TEST 7 2/2/1/1

    my diet is very strick with lean proteins and carbs.
    egg whites everyday since i started the cycle.
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    Milk thistle will inhibit gains... Supports are needed. Good job on serm but u need an AI
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    Hawthorne berry will help with blood pressure.
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    any good AI recommendations? and how bad will milk thistle inhibit gains? thanks
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    Get some liv52. Silymarin blocks AR... Erase is perfect... Use it during pct
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    Quote Originally Posted by Airborne42 View Post
    Milk thistle will inhibit gains... Supports are needed. Good job on serm but u need an AI
    If you actually think that a low dosed herb will inhibit gains from a STEROID... you dun goofed. Milk thistle isn't going to have any effect on body composition lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhadam

    If you actually think that a low dosed herb will inhibit gains from a STEROID... you dun goofed. Milk thistle isn't going to have any effect on body composition lol.
    No milk thistle is thought to block AR and slightly inhibit gains. That's why it's recommended to take them 4hr apart
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    FYI Superdrol is not a Prohormone, it's a designer steroid. Not trying to be an a**
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReyMan
    FYI Superdrol is not a Prohormone, it's a designer steroid. Not trying to be an a**
    This!!! No conversion to sd
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    day 9... slight bloating and noticable water weight... easily fixable during pct. no other sides. lethargy is gone.
    I have started to quick release the pills by opening the pill and pouring the powder into milk or water. taste like **** but i feel it more than i do if i take the pill. still only at 5 or 6 lb gain but its only day 9 on 20 mg.
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    I don't think its been firmly established that milk thistle inhibits gains. This being said, I'd use TUDCA anyways instead of milk thistle. Liv 52 is like bringing a knife to a gunfight on SD. Why the AI in PCT on SD?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AustinLee View Post
    unfortunately supports are minimum as I check up with my doctor reguarly and i am a health nut. so i just run liver52 and milkthistle as support.
    for PCT
    clomind 100/50/25/25
    TEST 7 2/2/1/1

    my diet is very strick with lean proteins and carbs.
    egg whites everyday since i started the cycle.
    You're a health nut but your supports are minimum?!
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    1. Opening the capsules is not doing anything....do you know how fast a gelatin capsule melts in acid?

    2. (and this is a general comment) Why
    the hell do people feel the need to run sd at over 10mg per day...in this case, 5lbs in a week at 10mg, how does that say "need more massively toxic chemicals".

    Id think a 10/10/10/10/10 cycle would be more effective and safer than the standard 10/20/20/20...but that is just my thoughts.

    Be safe, good luck, get huge.
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    haha thanks, i dont think the 5lbs was all m drol tho, i ate like a horse so i think 20 mg would be a good fit, but than again i have to worry about gyno.... or maybe thats just my rib bone.
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    Keep reading on all different threads about Milk Thistle inhibiting receptors/gains. But I have been using Liv52 and Cycle Support while on SD, just started Monday. So should I quit the Cycle Support and just stick with the Liv52? I have been dosing the SD and Liv52, Cycle Support 4 hours apart. Is that good enough?? Its just driving me crazy reading about gains not happening cause of that and I of course want to get out everything I can.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoneDaddy
    I don't think its been firmly established that milk thistle inhibits gains. This being said, I'd use TUDCA anyways instead of milk thistle. Liv 52 is like bringing a knife to a gunfight on SD. Why the AI in PCT on SD?
    It's debatable by all means. Studies show from what I have been researching on that silymarin blocks Androgen receptors. Milk thistle is used in prostate cancer patients as well because of its anticancerous properties. Tudca is definitely the right idea but I never had a prob with liv52. I'll run milk thistle and nac pre and post cycle. But in ill use liv52 at 3 caps in 2 doses
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    Quote Originally Posted by Airborne42 View Post
    It's debatable by all means. Studies show from what I have been researching on that silymarin blocks Androgen receptors. Milk thistle is used in prostate cancer patients as well because of its anticancerous properties. Tudca is definitely the right idea but I never had a prob with liv52. I'll run milk thistle and nac pre and post cycle. But in ill use liv52 at 3 caps in 2 doses

    Isolated Milk thistle extracts and diastereomers such as silyban A and silyban B are used for the prostate cancer treatments. Not milk thistle as a whole per se. Totally with ya on NAC. From all the research I've read I just don't see there being enough AR binding as a whole from milk thistle as you would from certain extracts and diastereomers, but I'm always open to some reading!!
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    I'll post a link on a few studies later
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