First cycle help
- 03-30-2012, 09:59 AM
First cycle help
I'll be starting haloriod and I'm fairly new to this, although i've been an advid lifter for a few years.
My goal is to gain 7-10lbs in 3 weeks. I'm 5'7, 150lbs about 10% Body fat
I've struggled to break 150 for 2 years now, tried gainers, didn't work all that well because I don't put fat on easily.
My breakdown of the cycle I was thinking something like this-
2tabs(14tabs)/3tabs(21tabs)/3tabs(21tabs) =56 tabs, first week 2tabs, second and third week 3 tabs.
the PCT I want to do is novaldex 20mg, for approx 4 weeks.
Should I include VitE in this PCT?
Or a liver aid?
Please don't bust on me if my cycle is off, I'm seeking advice on how to do it right.
Please recommend any experience you have, or a better cycle layout if you want, I'm open to doing things the right way.
Thanks, Look forward to your replies.
- 03-30-2012, 10:13 AM
I swear to god if you tell me you eat a lot I'm going to ****ing rage.
03-30-2012, 10:18 AM
I know how my body gains, and how it works quite well, my gains just get slower and slower the more weight I gain.
Can someone please offer me support in starting my first cycle, I'd like to know I'm doing it right.
Thanks in advance.
03-30-2012, 11:02 AM
03-30-2012, 11:30 AM
Sorry bud but you probably won't get a ton of help claiming you are stuck at 150, almost everybody will advise against you taking anabolics. Anybody can break 150. Don't worry about being lean tight now and up the calories, cut out most cardio, and make sure u get plenty of rest.
I myself too thought I was a "hardgainer" and couldn't seem to get any bigger. Turns out I was just not being serious about my diet.
If you honest to god take in 5000 cals theres no way at all you cannot grow as I'm guessing that's at least 2000 cals above matinence.
But if you are stubborn enough to take them now and not try and add more weight than yes nova will be fine and a liver aide is a must. Look around a little more and u should have no problem finding a pct layout as haloroid is simply a hdrol clone so you will find tons of logs.
03-30-2012, 11:38 AM
I am stubborn enough to try it now, I've been frusterated with looking "average" for awhile now, I want to be atleast 10lbs of muscle heavier and a first cycle will help me accomplish that.
I guess I was on the right track, I just am not sure about the duration of the PCT, I was going to just use a bottle and do the months worth of 20mg.
Thanks for the advice on the liver aide,I ordered it already.
I also repped you
03-30-2012, 12:27 PM
Last question, can I take the liver aid with the h-drol, or do I have to take it a few hours apart?
I was planing on taking 1 of each, morning, night. then in weeks 2,3 adding one tab of h-drol in mid day.
03-30-2012, 12:40 PM
THIS is the reason anabolics get a bad name. Kids don't know how to use diet and training to grow and get lean or don't care enough to learn. Then they find PHs or real gear and use it over and over again and at progressively higher doses and then BOOM liver and kidney failure. SHOCKING! I'm not hear to belittle you, but you NEED to hear this man! Don't use this **** yet! **** I'll even help you with your diet and training if you PM me.
03-30-2012, 01:12 PM
Now regarding eating 5k a day, I generally do and can gain a pound every two weeks. I don't think I'll get kidney or liver failure, I'm not stupid enough to up the anti when things go rocky, this will probably be my only cycle. I promise to myself and you (thanks for being worried) that I wouldn't ever abuse something like this. My target weight isn't 200lbs, or 180 even.. it's 165 at best post cycle, and 157, 160 worst case scenario, and I plan to follow the cycle with a cut, or clean bulk depending if I'm under 10% or not.
Now I still have that question about taking liver aids with the h-drol. Should they be taken together or apart?
03-30-2012, 01:23 PM
Agree with everyone on eat more. What's your training look like?
Also 3 weeks of hdrol is pointless...research the literally thousands of hdrol logs on here
03-30-2012, 01:34 PM
Yeah I read that if I am to do it smart, it would be best to do 50/50/50/50 rather a 3 week process.
I've taken advice on looking over others logs, and I think that taking it with the liver aid (a week in advance) and then follow the cycle with nova for the same duration.
training generally looks something like this for example
Thursday: Some home work on abs, maybe some pull ups and dips for fun
Sunday, Chest, Tri's.
My split changes constantly later in the week, especially Sunday, it's like my free day to do what I please.
I generally like to have a few days in between targeting the same muscle group, and I do like my rest time.
Every say 5, 6 weeks I'll take a 4 day break or so to regroup myself, and get back at it.
I still am wondering if I should take the liver aids with or sperate from the h-drol.?
03-30-2012, 01:36 PM
03-30-2012, 03:38 PM
03-30-2012, 03:40 PM
Try to take it 2 to 4 hours after hdrol.Originally Posted by rosporting
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03-30-2012, 03:44 PM
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