Broken down to a science?
- 03-30-2012, 02:11 AM
Broken down to a science?
Ive put a lot of thought to this and wonder if anyone could put some light on this.
I have always wondered if pro bodybuilders once they get to a high level or even very wealth gym rats that just want get big, go to the doctor and are tested on exactly what type of steroid they will react to the best. I know this is kind of far fetched but think about it. I know a doctor can look at your test levels and tell you hey this is what you produce naturally, ya ya ya we can all get that done, and I recommend that for anyone taking gear. But do you think some people actually have it broken down to a science?
- 03-30-2012, 02:15 AM
yea, def, you learn it from using different compounds and finding out what you respond to the best.
there is no special science, we are all different.
pro's are at an elite level to begin with genetically before they use steroids, the aas just enhance that even further.
all androgens bind to the same androgen receptor, different androgens have different properties. different people have different genetic make ups.
now stacking compounds to create a synergistic effect, that can be broken down to a science.
03-30-2012, 02:24 AM
I agree about the genetics, I wish I had half the genetics some guys have. And I understand the trail and error(not really error but didn't what else to call it) but figuring out what works best for you, but that takes years and there is sooooo many different compound out there, you'll never get to try everything, nor should anyone want to.Originally Posted by jbryand101b
I understand some ppl do home brew and make it, but thats usually for ppl who make it for them selves or want to sell for to a small amount of people. But I wonder if some pros have their own personal chemist, you know they have to being using large amounts through to course of a cycle. Do you thinks it's possible they have special blends made specifically for their use only?
03-30-2012, 02:33 AM
im sure most pro's aren't going to be injecting ugl stuff, and will instead have pharma grade gear.
with ugl, you really have no idea what you are getting, might be bold, might be test c.
could be dbol, could be methyl testosterone.
03-30-2012, 02:49 AM
Very true, I mean that's all I use is ugl but that's the way most us normal guys get it.Originally Posted by jbryand101b
Pharm grade would be nice to have but I don't think a doctor is going to give a perscription to a 22 year old. And if one did it would be for test C at the most and I want way more than just that. And plus it probably cost way to much!
Idk it would be awesome to know how the pros do it and what exactly they take and if they do have someone making special stuff just for them. What I really want is a sit down with Branch warren and for him to tell me every bit of knowledge he has about cycling. But thats never going to happen!
03-30-2012, 11:02 AM
03-30-2012, 12:13 PM
May be as "simple" as genetics. Sucks about the legality of these substances, don't really know what or how much exactly we're getting from ugls. I can get a source from a well known pro, but its costing 2x what an ugl has it at. Lol lab rat status.
03-30-2012, 12:27 PM
One of this biggest things to consider tho is that pro's aren't engulfed in bro science like we are. For instance, I just did some research regarding Trenbolone, how it relates to prolactin and it's sides and realized how much crap people are believing on this very board about how to have a good Tren cycle.
Pro's have the utmost experience and have helpful, professional support as well. But mainly, the reason they are bigger than the rest is not just genetics and experience alone, but deep pockets and a professional diet. They manage to eat 4-5Kcals daily clean. Such cleanliness of diet + HGH/Slin and quality anabolics like Test, Deca, Tren and EQ amount to extreme growth. It's a combination of many things really and yes, they have everything down to an exact science for their body.
03-30-2012, 12:54 PM
^^^^ This for sureOriginally Posted by fueledpassion
Purus Labs Anabolic Titan/Rep
Coach AB @ BossBody.net
03-30-2012, 01:04 PM
03-30-2012, 01:45 PM
03-30-2012, 01:47 PM
FWIW, Dorian wrote in MD that this was his cycle:
Test Prop 300mg
tren 152 mg
Daily- Anavar 50mg
GH 8 ius
Anavar daily- 50mg
M.Ed. Ex Phys
03-30-2012, 02:05 PM
03-30-2012, 02:06 PM
03-30-2012, 02:17 PM
03-30-2012, 02:18 PM
That's what I thought when i first started looking at some of the pro stacks from back in the day but it's definitely possible. Almost all their gear was super legit back then before hundreds of ugls started popping up. 500mgs of a ugl today could very well be only 300mgs of a purer compound. There an article of t nat about this exact stuff. Most gear amateurs get is under dosed, which is why these old-timer stacks seems so ridiculous.Originally Posted by ISU152
03-30-2012, 02:19 PM
03-30-2012, 03:59 PM
03-30-2012, 04:27 PM
03-30-2012, 04:44 PM
Pro's use ugl's just like non-pros. They also use human grade just like non-pros. The difference is doses and genetics.
03-30-2012, 04:53 PM
03-30-2012, 04:59 PM
Damn he's spending a few grand on var alone lol
03-30-2012, 05:02 PM
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04-01-2012, 12:03 AM
I agree with you on the diet! Takes discipline to eat 5k caloroes of dry tastless food a day! I also agree it takes deep pockets, or maybe not deep pockets to be exact but they sacrifice tones of other things in life that allow then to afford the "science"Originally Posted by fueledpassion
04-01-2012, 01:33 AM
04-01-2012, 02:58 AM
I respectfully disagree and would say that's not it at all. Certainly many factors are increasing the cost of food (including cost of shipping), greed, and the desire to eat healthy(demand). Its a shame eating healthy is now considered a luxury. I'd argue we're more of a dieing breed (ppl getting swole) as more and more gyms are catering to crossfit dbags as that's where the $ is (in MA at least)...seems like less ppl want to work hard and lift some heavy @$$ weight!Originally Posted by fueledpassion
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