Forma stanzol

[HitEmHeavy32]

I have 1 bottle of forma stanzol and I'm running a hella/kata v2 stack and was wondering if the Forma should be used on just PCT or both on and in PCT.

 

[csa2179]

whats ur pct look like, im 3 weeks into hella and am having some nipple puffiness so i started using forma 3 days ago and it has almost all cleared up. i wont be using it in pct because im using erase. but you can use it in pct

 

[grngoloco]

whats ur pct look like, im 3 weeks into hella and am having some nipple puffiness so i started using forma 3 days ago and it has almost all cleared up. i wont be using it in pct because im using erase. but you can use it in pct

You're not using a real AI like arimidex?

 

[grngoloco]

I'd never risk gyno,,, are you doing labs??
$50 and you'll know if you need anything and know if what you're taking actually works!!

 

[HitEmHeavy32]

This is my planned cycle


Helladrol at 75/75/75/75/100/100 (1 bottle) may bump to 100 in week 3-4
Katanadrol at 350mg / day (2 bottles)
Support supps like Liver XT , Taurine, Fish Oil

PCT:
Nolva 20/20/10/10
Daa starting week 1 or 2
Lean Xtreme start week 2 or 3 (cortisol)
Week 3 Forma-Stanzol 5 pumps am 5 pumps pm (bottle)
AI PCT support (week 2)

 

[csa2179]

its not gyno, no lumps, pain, or anything. i have test base, ran that for 1 week prior to starting forma so it is more than likely a small amount of estro build up. i have ran labs, but not while on cycle, got before and have one scheduled after, slight nipple puffiness(and i do mean slight, no one elses says they see it) is comon with ph use. i do have dex but dont feel it is necessary to mix that in, if lump forms or pain or tingling i will start taking with out hesitation.

 

[csa2179]

forma is a real AI and a Progestin inhibitor too

 

[csa2179]

I'd never risk gyno,,, are you doing labs??
$50 and you'll know if you need anything and know if what you're taking actually works!!

are you going to be able to start your katana cycle, im really anxious to see how running it at 450 works, i think it will be awesome,

 

[HitEmHeavy32]

Do i have to use the forma on cycle? I was going to save it for PCT since i just have 1 bottle

 

[csa2179]

no you can use it in pct only if you want. the only reason im not is because im using erase instead

 

[grngoloco]

its not gyno, no lumps, pain, or anything. i have test base, ran that for 1 week prior to starting forma so it is more than likely a small amount of estro build up. i have ran labs, but not while on cycle, got before and have one scheduled after, slight nipple puffiness(and i do mean slight, no one elses says they see it) is comon with ph use. i do have dex but dont feel it is necessary to mix that in, if lump forms or pain or tingling i will start taking with out hesitation.

Cool enough,, I take .5 mg eod of adex while on cycle,, but my cycles always have 300-700mg a week of testosterone as a base

 

[HitEmHeavy32]

Hmm so forma on and erase on PCT? I may try that actually

 

[csa2179]

Cool enough,, I take .5 mg eod of adex while on cycle,, but my cycles always have 300-700mg a week of testosterone as a base

im jealous...haha, is .5 the right dose. good to know i thought it was .25, if **** hits the fan that will be good to know.

did you start your cruise since you got sick? if i ever start pinning im for sure running a cycle like the one you were running

 

[csa2179]

Hmm so forma on and erase on PCT? I may try that actually

its not necessary, i just already had both.

 

[grngoloco]

im jealous...haha, is .5 the right dose. good to know i thought it was .25, if **** hits the fan that will be good to know.

did you start your cruise since you got sick? if i ever start pinning im for sure running a cycle like the one you were running

I start at .5 eod,,, when I did my midcycle labs my estrogen was still at 74... so it didn't crush it .. but since my test was so high there wasn't a danger,,, every once in a while I'd get tingles in my nips and take 1mg a day for a.few days then go back to .5 eod...... I'm only doing 100mg test cyp a week right now until my liver recovers,,, had a virus get into my liver and mess it up, had nothing to do with my cycle .... going back 4/4 for follow up labs,, if everything is ok I'll start a new cycle,,, thinking helladrol/katanadrol/test followed by tren a/kat/test... we'll see,,, I'm all stocked up with a bunch of things,, my options are wide open

 

[HitEmHeavy32]

its not necessary, i just already had both.

Oh alright man, hope your cycle goes well . Thanks again

 

[csa2179]

I start at .5 eod,,, when I did my midcycle labs my estrogen was still at 74... so it didn't crush it .. but since my test was so high there wasn't a danger,,, every once in a while I'd get tingles in my nips and take 1mg a day for a.few days then go back to .5 eod...... I'm only doing 100mg test cyp a week right now until my liver recovers,,, had a virus get into my liver and mess it up, had nothing to do with my cycle .... going back 4/4 for follow up labs,, if everything is ok I'll start a new cycle,,, thinking helladrol/katanadrol/test followed by tren a/kat/test... we'll see,,, I'm all stocked up with a bunch of things,, my options are wide open

DAMN 74 estro.... thats crazy, i guess thats normal for high dose of test.. mine was 28 befor i started cycle, seemed a little high to me. hope you get better soon, you were killing it

 

[csa2179]

Oh alright man, hope your cycle goes well . Thanks again

you too man

 

[grngoloco]

DAMN 74 estro.... thats crazy, i guess thats normal for high dose of test.. mine was 28 befor i started cycle, seemed a little high to me. hope you get better soon, you were killing it

It's all about ratio when it comes to estrogen,,, it's healthy to have a proper balance,, for libido and muscle growth you need a basic amount of estrogen .... which is why I'll never take letro outside of an emergency

 

[grngoloco]

are you going to be able to start your katana cycle, im really anxious to see how running it at 450 works, i think it will be awesome,

will definitely do the katanadrol,, sitting on four bottles,,, not sure when, but soon

 

[jbryand101b]

You're not using a real AI like arimidex?

what do you mean real ai? you do know formestane was once a perscribed ai right?

'Formestane(Lentaron(R)) is a second generation selective aromatase inhibitor with an IC50 of 80 nM. Formestane(Lentaron(R)) is used in the treatment of estrogen-receptor positive breast cancer in post-menopausal women. Formestane(Lentaron(R)) is often used to suppress estrogen production from anabolic steroids or prohormones. Formestane(Lentaron(R)) also acts as a prohormone to 4-hydroxytestosterone, an active steroid which displays weak androgenic activity in addition to acting as a mild aromatase inhibitor. Formestane has poor oral bioavailability and as such is no longer popular as many orally active aromatase inhibitors have been identified.'

 

[grngoloco]

what do you mean real ai? you do know formestane was once a perscribed ai right?

'Formestane(Lentaron(R)) is a second generation selective aromatase inhibitor with an IC50 of 80 nM. Formestane(Lentaron(R)) is used in the treatment of estrogen-receptor positive breast cancer in post-menopausal women. Formestane(Lentaron(R)) is often used to suppress estrogen production from anabolic steroids or prohormones. Formestane(Lentaron(R)) also acts as a prohormone to 4-hydroxytestosterone, an active steroid which displays weak androgenic activity in addition to acting as a mild aromatase inhibitor. Formestane has poor oral bioavailability and as such is no longer popular as many orally active aromatase inhibitors have been identified.'

I didn't know it was once prescribed *shrugs*
Guess my relative noobness to AAS' shined through with that statement LOL

 

[jbryand101b]

its all good. just me bein me

 

[grngoloco]

its all good. just me bein me

Lol

 

[csa2179]

Lol

i need to learn more about the estro stuff, i get confused and i dont understand what the appropriate balance is.

 

[csa2179]

will definitely do the katanadrol,, sitting on four bottles,,, not sure when, but soon

Nice

 

[grngoloco]

i need to learn more about the estro stuff, i get confused and i dont understand what the appropriate balance is.

Every time I think I can speak with authority I end up putting my foot in my mouth,,, lol... have a lot to learn myself... I also, need to start saving these studies I run across and read, as well. Every time I mention a study that disputes what someone is saying they want proof... lol.. when I read the damned things, I'm doing it as a "learner." I need to start acting like a "teacher" and have these studies available to show people.

 

[jbryand101b]

finding the proper estrogen/androgen balance is something you can only do with experience. you are going to have to try different compounds, at various dosages to get a feel of what works best.

too little estrogen is almost as bad as too much. it's a key hormone for the gainzzzz.

 

[grngoloco]

I used to take 1mg adex ed out of fear of gyno... I have a very tiny, mostly unoticeable touch of gyno from when I lost a testical to an estrogen producing tumor at the age of 12,, wasn't until I dropped to .5 eod that I started to see the muscle gains I had expected to see from taking AAS'... The difference in gains from too much adex to just enough were no less than AWESOME!!

 

[grngoloco]

I'm wondering about progesterone ... isn't progesterone converted to testosterone?? Forgive my lack of sophisticated knowledge,, I am relatively, still an AAS noob.

 

[jbryand101b]

here,

 

[grngoloco]

here,

That was actually really cool and simple,,, thanks!!

 

[JCtherocks]

Hella doesnt convert to estrogen so how are you getting nipp puffyness??

whats ur pct look like, im 3 weeks into hella and am having some nipple puffiness so i started using forma 3 days ago and it has almost all cleared up. i wont be using it in pct because im using erase. but you can use it in pct