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03-31-2012, 02:40 PM
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03-31-2012, 06:10 PM
03-31-2012, 06:14 PM
[QUOTE=Husker89;3309810]if your trying to lean run epi dude 4-6 weeks of epi with proper pct ull gain and hold a lot[/QUOTE
only thing is i hear ythe androlean is side free. i ran epi (overall i loved it, but it....), killed my libido got acne, extreamly agrrsive(which somtimes i liked ) and some bumps. also idk this for sure because it wasent checked til a month after the cycle but i thought it raised my blood pressure. anyway androlean sounds better due to the zero side effects. and also with the epi i got rele cut up wile on it and i took nolva and daa with a vitamins pack that had creatine vitamins and natural test boosters and deffeintly lost some muscle and my cutness
03-31-2012, 09:22 PM
03-31-2012, 10:09 PM
03-31-2012, 10:26 PM
03-31-2012, 11:55 PM
You know,, I'm one of the lucky few,, tren A gives me no sides,, and is sure to kick anything's as§ for recomp at a third of the price,,
04-01-2012, 01:41 AM
Dizammmmn!! 12 weeks?? Thats @ least 5 Benjamins!! You got that kind of $$ to cough up u don't need muscle to get the ladies attention...Originally Posted by ryansm
"Liver stress is weakness leaving the body!!"
04-01-2012, 02:07 AM
[QUOTE=grngoloco;3310478]You know,, I'm one of the lucky few,, tren A gives me no sides,, and is sure to kick anything's as§ for recomp at a third of the price,, [/QUOTE
is that trenavar?
04-01-2012, 02:24 AM
if you recommend 8-12 can u use different compounds ? for example 8weeks hard 4 lean or do u mean 8-12 of each kind
04-01-2012, 11:26 AM
04-02-2012, 02:45 PM
I think 6-8 weeks is ideal for gains --- then around 8 weeks I feel gains plateau, but of course you can "HOLD" body weight for a while longer to help solidify gains sort to speak....Even AAS injects plateau for a lot of people around week 8....
I like the idea of doing something like MASS/BULK for 6 weeks then going into LEAN/HARD for 6 weeks (12 weeks total)
04-02-2012, 03:34 PM
04-02-2012, 04:53 PM
But I would rather fork over more money than run a super toxic stack for 8 weeks --- Sd 4 weeks --> EPi 4 weeks ---could be danger zone.
04-02-2012, 07:09 PM
If you're a bargain shopper then you can find AMV3 for $120... So a 12 week cycle is gonna cost you $360. Still pricey but way cheaper than a lot of places.
04-02-2012, 07:13 PM
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04-02-2012, 08:31 PM
04-02-2012, 10:37 PM
04-02-2012, 10:41 PM
Yesss my androbulk cam in the mail today! so tempting to just start it immediately but i need o order pct first and i just dont know wether to run it before during or end of summer, any suggestions? and for pct should i use the one form the primordial performance or should i go with erase pro and tocco 8 ?
04-03-2012, 12:57 PM
04-03-2012, 01:37 PM
With a SERM as well right? I know a lot of people don't bother with it for the PP lineOriginally Posted by MattPorter
Always willing to learn :D
04-03-2012, 02:15 PM
04-03-2012, 02:42 PM
yea i dont feel like using a serm. i just dont know wether to get the natral recover stack that the site offers or if i should use the erase pro
04-03-2012, 04:31 PM
What do you think about..
Bulk(6-9 caps)/Mass(6 caps) weeks 1-8
Hard(6 caps/Lean(caps) weeks 8-14
Prop(100mg EOD)/Anavar(60mg 6 weeks) or Mechabol(50mg for 6 weeks) weeks 14-22
TRS, Torem 60mg, Intimidate, Ipamorelin/Mod grf weeks 22-26
That way your running compounds for 8 weeks max and running the androseries at the beginning so shutdown shouldn't be too bad.
04-03-2012, 05:12 PM
If you choose this route --- I would incorporate HCG right when you begin prop + methyl at 2 shots a week at 500iu per shot.
I like the PCT with peptides, that is a nice option to go with. Could be a very successful long cycle....but I feel the HCG is paramount in gain retention.
04-03-2012, 08:09 PM
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