Best cycle to improve secondary male characteristics
03-24-2012 03:39 PM
Originally Posted by T-Bone
So true T-bone!. Reps!
03-24-2012 04:02 PM
You guys are retarded! I cried laughing so hard at this thread.
03-24-2012 05:27 PM
I heard if you mix bleach with ammonia it makes for hyper-male-sterone. That or drinking sperm, especially that of the bull. Just my $.02
03-24-2012 09:42 PM
that's exactly what i'm tryin to say. why does it not work for males. ? i can see that because girls are more sensitive to androgen, males need higher doses, but still...if it works for one it should work for the other?...and the rest of you morons joking around and talking about psychology get the **** outta here and stop spamming up my thread. the hell you think this is bb.com?
Originally Posted by WARBIRDWS6
03-24-2012 09:49 PM
Originally Posted by tstarks
No need to get hostile. There has to be a reason why you feel the need to increase your "manliness"...Like I said you should seek psychological help. You need to get to the root of the problem, not just mask it. I'm only trying to help you out. Not joking around. Sure I was joking about sounding like barry white with those posts but not about seeing someone for help on this issue.
03-24-2012 10:01 PM
well a woman is adding high doses of hormones that she would normally have very small amounts of when she takes androgenic AAS.....so of course it would affect them very different than it would a man. Since a man already has large amounts of these hormones, and they are "normal" to have in these higher doses...its not like its going to "change" us in any significant way. even if you megadose it, I can't see it causing much masculinization. Now if you took high doses of estrogen? or progestrone? or whatever female hormone? you'd start to grow boobs and get female fat distribution and all that good stuff. because you are taking in high doses of hormones that are supposed to be at very low levels in your system. You'll potentially get bigger muscles and body hair growth, stuff like that from the androgens....but you're not gonna see any wholesale changes in your voice or jawline or whatever.
03-24-2012 10:04 PM
Warbird that NCAA girl is what 18-22 tops thus her roiding would have happened most likely before the end of puberty.
Chin issue the only way to change is surgery and voical changes can only be caused in men (reason unknown) by damaging the vocal chords by drinking, smoking, inhaling particles, and other destructive means. You could attempt applying DHT to the vocal chords area through a topical cream but it would doubtfully work.
Here is my theory, messing with your endocrine system causes your body to react more harshly with hormones that are not horrifically abundant AKA men more effected by estro and women more effected by test. I base my theory off the fact that men get more female characteristics when estro rebounds happen and women that take alot of gear get large clits, deeper voices and facial hair.
Originally Posted by csa2179
03-24-2012 10:14 PM
I think its a dude, but hey she could have taking some AAS during middle school or HS or just be a freak of nature, which is probably the actual case.....
Originally Posted by Gerbil
03-24-2012 10:16 PM
OP, if you want to try it out.....just hop on a test/masteron cycle for a LONG time.....like 6 months or a year, within reasonable dosages....see if it causes the desired effect. worst that can happen is you'll get "hyuge" muscles but this depends on your age....I do not recall your age. you shouldn't be on long duration cycles of these AAS at a young age.......
03-24-2012 11:21 PM
yea im not getting on test for 6 months to a year. this is why i asked if proviron would be good. from what i read, it is the closest thing around to actual dht molecule made for consumption. PLLUS...it doesn't shut you down, (according to studies) ,if you take no more thn 100-150mg (for males). it doesn't do much in the way of muscles, but it's safe to take by itself for that time due to it being mild on endrcrine. what you guys think? maybe with milk thistle/nac (it is very mild on liver but still because of the long amount of time)....nettle for prostate, etc.
03-24-2012 11:28 PM
taking proviron should be harmless enough.... not so sure it will have the effect you want. but give it a try. its is known to cause virilization effects in women, but not men of course.
03-24-2012 11:37 PM
take an AI? less girly water retention? idk.
03-25-2012 04:01 AM
tren would be your best bet imo you want a strong adrogen second best prolly halostine. Superdrol or trenavar prolly your best legal strong androgens. Tren will make a man out of you yet lol
03-25-2012 06:48 AM
If you're concerned with your voice get some coaching. There are exercises you can do to train your vocal tract, so you can get louder and deeper to certain extent. Don't expect miracles though, it won't change characteristics of your voice; it would just allow you to make a better use of what you already have.
I've seen some anecdotal reports about injecting peptides *into* your d1ck to make it grow. I'd take it as jokes on teh webs.
Although, if you have psychological or whatso problem, I'd do blood work cause those can be due to some hormonal imbalance.
Check out my current log: http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/195262-iforce-tropinol-testabolan.html
03-25-2012 12:31 PM
i'm gonna give you a serious answer as to why it wont work. a male is already FULLY androgenized from the testosterone produced naturally. taking more androgens will have no effect. it would only work for a man if he has a medical condition that prevented androgens from being produced in the body. a woman has not been exposed to high enough doses of androgens to become fully androgenized. so when a female takes androgens, she becomes more masculine. look at it the other way around, if a male took estrogen, he would develop feminine traits, but the effect of the previous androgenization will still be there ie bone structure, body hair growth, etc.
even if it was possible to increase masculine traits through androgen therapy, proviron wouldn't do it. it's alot less androgenic than the testosterone and dht being produced in the body naturally.
03-27-2012 09:35 PM
03-29-2012 06:35 PM
High doses of GH would produce both a more protruding jaw bone and a deeper voice overtime. Yes, this is possible even in adults. However, at the point you start experiencing morphological changes in those areas, you'd likely run into several health complications, almost all of them irreversible, including heart and vision problems.
03-29-2012 06:57 PM
Also a very pronounced brow ridge. Plus it rapes your blood lipid profiles (at that high a dosage and that long).
Originally Posted by Torobestia
Originally Posted by csa2179
03-29-2012 09:09 PM
I think he is gunning for the "sexy man jaw", not the caveman-like GH-induced monstrosity jaw and brow , but yeah....for general bone growth (in adults as well as kids) GH would have that effect in the larger doses.....but as you say then come the health risks that will harm or kill you and you won't be able to enjoy your newfound neanderthal jaw/brow and elongated elbows
Originally Posted by Torobestia
03-29-2012 10:46 PM
sure, i'd like to look like a neanderthal. worth a try. thanks.
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