Bmize89
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Anyone kno a good way to use clen to get max results? I was told to start at 20 and work up and cycle 2weeks on and 2weeks off
Useless? It is an upregulator and i have ran clen/keto for 4 1/2 weeks straight not a single day did i feel any immunity changes.Not to doubt you Matt but I've seen studies where ketofen is useless for clen. I don't remember the abstracts as it was about 6 months ago. But it basically was that keto was bro science and just cycling 2 weeks on and off is enough to clean out
Once again, I know people use it but I've seen multiple studies that say otherwise and that it has no use. I'll try to find themUseless? It is an upregulator and i have ran clen/keto for 4 1/2 weeks straight not a single day did i feel any immunity changes.
Yes Benadryl CAN upgrade, its an anti-histamine, which unlike Keto will effect all your beta receptors, although clen only effects your beta-2 as ephedrine effects beta-2 and beta-3.
If you're dosing clen at 80mgs/day how much ketotifen would you want to take?No....
Use ketotifen for beta - 2 upregulation. I do not believe that benadryl does the same.
Use clen for 4-6 weeks MAX *(and that is pushin it) because while receptors down regulate --- it is still working and burning fat ,,, you are just used to it.
TO really stay fresh -- do clen for 1 week on 1 week off ....I hate the 2 days on 2 off since clen is active for 36 hours....
-Matt
I like 2mg before bed.If you're dosing clen at 80mgs/day how much ketotifen would you want to take?
No offense taken -- I would love to check out the research stating otherwise if you could provide?Not to doubt you Matt but I've seen studies where ketofen is useless for clen. I don't remember the abstracts as it was about 6 months ago. But it basically was that keto was bro science and just cycling 2 weeks on and off is enough to clean out
Damn, looks like that is going to be more expensive than the clen hahaI like 2mg before bed.
-Matt
Hmmmm Matt: what do you think of a 2 week on protocol using a dosing pattern like:
80/40/0(repeated) with the 0 day not for any "fresh/clear" type stuff, but to help limit systemic buildup somewhat.
Try 1 mg and see how that works for you --- go to GWP's and use teamporter10 for 10% -- should make the keto like 18 bucks for 60 mlsDamn, looks like that is going to be more expensive than the clen haha
GWP? and thanks man! Very much appreciated. Btw..I feel stupid having to ask this but I am very new to any sort of fat loss supplements...what exactly is this used for?Try 1 mg and see how that works for you --- go to GWP's and use teamporter10 for 10% -- should make the keto like 18 bucks for 60 mls
-Matt
Nooooow I get it haha. Thanks manNo, since clen fills your beta 2 receptor, keto will upregulate it at between 1-3mg ED(depending on person).
So you can consistantly run it.
I don't know much about the science of this stuff but there are lots of logs out there that says it works and it's suppose to be local. I use 100mcg in the morning and have not had any clen sides. All I can say is I've ran different PHs in the past for fat loss with a low carb diet and I've never had these results with mid section fat loss.Theres no localized fat burn unless its GH, which there's a lot against the fact that its not localized.
So theres probably no localized fat burning, as there is no localized muscle growth products.
Sorry to say.
It works -- I have had too many clients use this stuff and on stubborn areas and it simply was effective.I don't know much about the science of this stuff but there are lots of logs out there that says it works and it's suppose to be local. I use 100mcg in the morning and have not had any clen sides. All I can say is I've ran different PHs in the past for fat loss with a low carb diet and I've never had these results with mid section fat loss.
this.I think that what most people don't realize with the topicals is that you already have to be quite lean for them to work noticably, they aren't going to work well on someone who is 15-20% bodyfat, unless they are putting it on a leaner area to lean it out even more.
I guess I'm not smart enough to understand what your saying here or why you would say that.this.
and also your saying if i just localize fat burn on my legs, i can still have my gut? V_V
Agree with this but I would think 99% would use this on there core. For me I am trying to retain as much body weight/ muscle as possible why trying to lean out my midsection.I think that what most people don't realize with the topicals is that you already have to be quite lean for them to work noticably, they aren't going to work well on someone who is 15-20% bodyfat, unless they are putting it on a leaner area to lean it out even more.
If you want to look like a mushroom. Need some pic though.this.
and also your saying if i just localize fat burn on my legs, i can still have my gut? V_V
lol?Keto generally will make you drowsy, so i never had a problem sleeping, and there is no "off days" of clen with ketotifen, your thinking of T3 and T4
Are you using research chem? Also, are you taking benadryl or ketotifen?So ive been using Clen for a week now and results are... I've went from 212 to 204 and lost 1.5% bf... Also have been on a strict diet with a lot more cardio than usual... I did 20/40/40/60/80/100 so far
Yeah or the clen will quit working. I also heard if you do one week on one week off that should workSo I should be taking Benadryl every night?
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