[Harry Seaward]

Ok still ironing out the details. Apologies to those like Warbird and Manbeast who are probably like "who the hell is this dude and why is he so clueless". I'm sure you might remember way back to your newbie days, maybe you were a worry-wart like me, maybe not.

I'm now thinking 400 mg Test E per week, which would be 250 ampule shot once every 5/4/4/4 days. Most likely with D-Bol low dose kick, winny finisher. My next question is should I maybe keep it even more conservative and do 8 weeks to lessen the sides and also the recovery period? I'm thinking anywhere from 8-12 weeks. I could always call an audible and play it by ear, but would like to plan as much as I can. Any input and guidance always appreciated

I have all of the PCT / ancillaries on hand of course. Kickoff time either 4/15 or 4/22.

[Harry Seaward]

Bump >>>

Any thoughts on 8 vs 10 vs 12 weeks? Any experience with changing around the length of the cycle?

Thanks

[ManBeast]

test-e you really should be "on" for at least 12 weeks, which means injecting for 10. if you want to kick and finish optimally (4 weeks dbol, 6 weeks winny) you'll want to be "on" for 14 IMHO and it would look like:

1-14 test 400mg/week
1-4 dbol 25-40mg/ed
8-14 winny 40-60mg/ed
x-14 250iu HCG 2x/week (x being somewhere that you won't end up wasting HCG so if you had 5000iu (a standard ampule i think), you'd start in week 5)
serm therapy weeks 15-20

[Harry Seaward]

test-e you really should be "on" for at least 12 weeks, which means injecting for 10. if you want to kick and finish optimally (4 weeks dbol, 6 weeks winny) you'll want to be "on" for 14 IMHO and it would look like:

1-14 test 400mg/week
1-4 dbol 25-40mg/ed
8-14 winny 40-60mg/ed
x-14 250iu HCG 2x/week (x being somewhere that you won't end up wasting HCG so if you had 5000iu (a standard ampule i think), you'd start in week 5)
serm therapy weeks 15-20

Beautiful thanks my man, looks like I'm getting closer and closer to having all of the details worked out. I also plan on Arimidex .5 mg EOD on cycle and Exemestane & Clomid (and maybe Nolva if it's not too much overkill) PCT.

HCG I plan on using 5 - 12 or 14 with the last two weeks upping to 500IU EOD or E3D. I think I'm going to do D-Bol 1-3 or 4 25 mg ED, and Winny 40 mg ED last 5 weeks.

In addition to Serms I'll be using DAA, Fadogia, Tribulus, and maybe proviron for PCT, not sure though on Proviron.

Thanks a lot MB