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Nolvadex

too bad you don't just want some tamoxifen citrate for research purposes, then you could get it right here from one of the sponsors
 
Don't forget that asking for Nolvadex is like asking for a source on a prescription drug. That's illegal and agaist the board rules. Asking for tamoxifen is like asking for a generic research chemical. That's OK.

Sorry for the dry response, roidmonkey, but you really sounded like a fed earlier.
 
You must have felt guilty about that mean first response to a newb, Doc. Wise Acre.

FYI, roidmonkey - Toxo Citrate is only aproximately 0.66 the strength of nolvadex, i.e. 40 mgs of Nolva would require 60mgs of Generic Citrate.
 
RD what are you basing your percentage on that.. I would really like to know. because I have seen this repeated several times and if you buy noladex tablets it is the same stuff as the suspension..
 
Matthew D said:
RD what are you basing your percentage on that.. I would really like to know. because I have seen this repeated several times and if you buy noladex tablets it is the same stuff as the suspension..
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Nolvadex tablets take into account the citrate when dosing is labeled. TC does not.
 
Matthew D said:
RD what are you basing your percentage on that.. I would really like to know. because I have seen this repeated several times and if you buy noladex tablets it is the same stuff as the suspension..
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There was a discussion on here a while back, this was the conclusion, but I could'nt find it, I don't know why.

I did a quick web metasearch on TC, the first website I pulled

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"Tamoxifen Citrate Tablets, a nonsterodial antiestrogen, are for oral administration and contain 15.2 mg of Tamoxifen Citrate (equivalent to 10 mg of tamoxifen)."
 
Okay but from reading that, I can't see suggesting that the dosage be changed.. it is stil the same stuff that has been used for a long time now with good results.. and with all of the other negative sides that are NOW showing up with the use of Nolvadex, why risk it?

SJA, How do you know that it is not taken in to account or not into account? I am playing devil's advocate here because what you are saying sounds good but at the same time, not quite right..
 
Well, 40 mgs of TC would seem theraputically equivalent to 26.2mgs of Nolvadex, which is probably enough to get the desired effect, but users should be aware that it's a third less potent, and adjust if they really feel they need a full strength dose.

If I had just finished a heavily suppresive PH/Gear cycle, I would do 1.5X the amount, the evidence is there that TC is a 1/3rd less strong than Nolva, but not that 50% more TC will be 50% more toxic than same .I'd be more concerned with not getting enough Toxo to counter E and boost test production,than in toxicity that appears from the studies to take months or even years to show up.

As far as I know, the toxicity of Nolva is more a product of duration than doseage, unless maybe one was to use a super high level.

I'm not a big fan of Nolva anyway. I will continue using lightly suppressive anabolics with a 6-oxo PCT. Unlike Nolva, I feel better on it, and continue to make gains.
 
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They are correct, Matt. 10mg Nolvadex is equivalent to 15.2mg tamoxifen citrate. The tabs are formulated to deliver 10mg tamoxifen base. Multiply your tamoxifen citrate suspension dose by 0.66 and that's about how much actual tamoxifen your getting.
 
I haven't looked up the chemistry of the two, and the TC form may have properties different from Nolvadex, but on the surface it looks like a 1/3 rd of TC is inert filler.

Kinda like when Doc sticks a rolled up sock done his pants, there appears to be something substantial there, but it's faux posturing,LOL.
 
Don't make me have to back-smack you, again. Like the time I kicked you out of my apartment and wouldn't even let you get dressed first. :lol:
 
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