All You need to Know about PCT!!!!

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  1. I never once disrespected what you had to say, I disagreed, but the fact that you have mentioned 5k posts a couple times feels like you are taking jabs at me for some odd reason...

    I also spend time over at Nathan's forum, I don't see many recommendations if any of avoiding a SERM in any kind of pct, torem and clomid are the #1 and 2 recommendations over there.
    -Saving random peoples' nuts, one pair at at time... PCT info:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/192992-pct-what-why.html
    -Are you really ready for a cycle? Read this link and be honest:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/191120-checklist-before-thinking.html
    *I am not a medical expert, my opinions are not professional, and I strongly suggest doing research of your own.*


  2. I just posted my pct for my last cycle..... And i used a SERM, so when did i ever say not to use a serm???? Now your putting words in my mouth? and i never said you disrespected me... I posted in other peoples threads and your members of this sight bash me for not saying to use nolva... No im not gonna condone using nolvadex or ever say that is a good idea when someone is using a 19nor compound.... and i get WRONG, WRONG, you dont know what your talking about.... lol, come one over to Elitefitness and get schooled... You dont have idiots commenting in that stacking nolva and clomid are a good idea when running a 19nor... YOU SHOULD NEVER RUN NOLVA WITH DECA.... but your members say other wise... why is that?
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  3. You can use nolva after a 19-nor, as long as it has cleared your system (which anyone who knows anything about deca knows it takes an incredibly long time), so with tren acetate it really isn't a problem if you run your test 2 weeks past the tren, but with deca it *could* be a risk depending on the timing, again, I've seen studies that show in normal healthy tissues, nolva has no effect on the progesterone receptor at all, the studies that do show upregulation are in cervical and cancerous mamary tissues if I recall right.

    I never said YOU said no SERM, your information posted leans towards no SERM and using forma instead is all.
    -Saving random peoples' nuts, one pair at at time... PCT info:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/192992-pct-what-why.html
    -Are you really ready for a cycle? Read this link and be honest:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/191120-checklist-before-thinking.html
    *I am not a medical expert, my opinions are not professional, and I strongly suggest doing research of your own.*

  4. The information i posted is explaining some of the reasons why we dont use nolva anymore... There are natural herbs and extracts that can do the same thing with no sides.... I also have been saying that there are other SERMS available that arnt as potent. You right, there are studies showing both that nolva can upregulate the prolacting sides...

    Faslodex (Fulvestrant) : Approved for use in 2002 for breast cancer research, this drug is unlike most we have seen. It is classified as an estrogen receptor downregulator. It prevents estrogen from exerting its influence on the estrogen receptor. Similar to Nolvadex, but is not selective. It hits all estrogen receptors. It also does this to progesterone receptors to a lesser degree. It is injectable, at 250mg a month. No information on how it affects blood lipids. It is also very expensive.

    Clomid (Clomiphene Citrate) : This drug is also a SERM, almost identicle to Nolva. It is said to be a weaker blocker mg for mg than Nolva. Its common use is in PCT, usually for about a month, used after HCG and all AAS esters have run out of your body. Even though it is weaker than Nolva at blocking, it is believed to be quicker at bringing HPTA back to balance. Both are commonly used during PCT. It binds to different receptors than Nolva. There is a lot of debate on this, but until there is solid proof, it may be prudent to include this in your PCT. Commonly taken at about 100mg a day.

    Fareston (Toremifene Citrate) : This is a second generation SERM. Approved for use in 1997. Chemically very similar to Nolva and Clomid, it is less powerful mg for mg. Fareston may have a stronger posotive effect on your cholesterol levels. For those who find this an important issue, this is a drug of choice. Used every day at around 60mg.

    Evista (raloxifene) : A newer SERM, Evista is shown to be a blocker in breast tissue, but acts as a receptor agonist in bone tissue (unlike Nolvadex). This action promotes bone density. Taken at about 60mg a day. Evista may prove to be very beneficial, as it also helps cholesterol levels (like Nolvadex). Evista is supposed to have a more powerful gyno blocking effect than Nolvadex.

    Cyclofenil : Much like Nolvadex, this is also a SERM. Used at about 600mg a day, it is weaker mg for mg. A good alternative if Nolva is not available, which is usually not the case.

  5. From what I'm seeing at Elite, you need to be a platinum member now to read the forums?
    -Saving random peoples' nuts, one pair at at time... PCT info:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/192992-pct-what-why.html
    -Are you really ready for a cycle? Read this link and be honest:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/191120-checklist-before-thinking.html
    *I am not a medical expert, my opinions are not professional, and I strongly suggest doing research of your own.*
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  6. Deca esters have been found in the blood up to 9 months after the last injection, so how are you suppose to wait for that to clear? You would have no chance at restoring a healthy functioning hpta if you waited 9 months for pct....

  7. No you dont....

  8. If you do, then they let me view without, probably because of how many people i help out over there....

  9. Interesting, my old account from years ago couldn't... but the new one I made can... kinda whack, but whatever.
    -Saving random peoples' nuts, one pair at at time... PCT info:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/192992-pct-what-why.html
    -Are you really ready for a cycle? Read this link and be honest:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/191120-checklist-before-thinking.html
    *I am not a medical expert, my opinions are not professional, and I strongly suggest doing research of your own.*

  10. no biggie....

  11. Im not saying that using nolva isnt going to work, im just repeating that thre are far newer Serms that are less harsh on the body... And the receptor.. Why would you even risk prolacting when you know that you can use a different serm and there is no risk?

  12. Ive been on there for 5 years and they hanvt made me plat yet... IDK, I Think we need to have a peace treaty, we sound like two juice heads argueing for reallllllll....... BTW, sweet how you guys took all my rep points... lol

  13. Alright, made you green in a truce, again, the last time I did a cycle/pct was in 04, nolva and clomid stacked was the best option back then. At this point I'm a torem/clomid guy for the most part.
    -Saving random peoples' nuts, one pair at at time... PCT info:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/192992-pct-what-why.html
    -Are you really ready for a cycle? Read this link and be honest:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/191120-checklist-before-thinking.html
    *I am not a medical expert, my opinions are not professional, and I strongly suggest doing research of your own.*

  14. Slumber party at my house later guys.
    Just so you know.
    Quote Originally Posted by Level9Germ
    Common bro why would u take d Bol just take plain steroids if ur gonna do it since first place

  15. Muchos gracias amigo... No problem... Send me a friend request over at EF (Johnnyboy3689282), Im not bashing anyone, just wanna help bro... Im new school modern medicine... And no, you cant learn everything from a text book, because i honestly feel im smart when it comes to AAS then most DOCS. There isnt a course on PCT in Med school, they just have protocols... Ive learned my knowledge from surfing the BB websites since i was 16, living with a father who abused steroids and has tryed everything in the book, friends included, and given himself the 2 heart attacks before 40 and 2 other major opps. Ive learned from experience and reseach research research... Sorry if i was coming off as an ******* manbeast.... Im really a good dude...

  16. Quote Originally Posted by Cheif View Post
    Slumber party at my house later guys.
    Just so you know.
    lol, nice... Ill bring the syringes.... have a vein party

  17. :smh:

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  19. Dont threaten me with a good time... no homo

  20. Quote Originally Posted by DRSTRISMADAST

    lol, nice... Ill bring the syringes.... have a vein party
    Bahaha awhhh yeah.
    Nothing like a nice infection to compliment an awesome slumber party!
    Quote Originally Posted by Level9Germ
    Common bro why would u take d Bol just take plain steroids if ur gonna do it since first place

  21. Very nice write up. thanks for the good read.

  22. Lol I have nothing to contribute, everyone has already made up haha.

  23. The bum i was sharing needles with in the alley said he was clean bro... lol

  24. better late than never Sam.... Your timing is like mine meeting you at the gym every day.... LATE!!! lol

  25. Lol I b on the bike already cracked out on preworkout.
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