Best PH/DS for strength

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  1. So

    Option 1:
    Superdrol 20mg
    Tren 60mg
    For 5 weeks

    Option 2:
    Superdrol for 3 weeks 10/20/20
    Tren for 6 weeks 40/80/80/120/120/120

    Option 3:
    Superdrol 30mg
    Tren 90 mg
    For 4 weeks

    Or any other suggestions?


  2. My vote is for either dzine/xtren, or sd/pp, either one of those will bring huge strength gains & size. dzine/xtren will provide a lot more hardness/ripped look though.

    also, after 3-4 weeks on which ever you choose, I recomend you run 5aohp & mmv3 together for another 4 weeks.
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  3. Jbry hit it on the head, that would be an incredibly solid 8 week cycle. Just pick if you want to get really big or big and hard

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  4. I'll take both please :-)
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  5. I really dont care to get big or gain too much weight. My main goal is to just gain stregth.. The more hardness/ripped look does sound appealing to me though. That said isnt dzine and superdrol pretty damn similar? Wouldnt superdrol and xtren give those same results (hard and lean look) or just about the same?

    Not questioning you jbry just tryna learn
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by RawStrength View Post
    I really dont care to get big or gain too much weight. My main goal is to just gain stregth..
    i second dzine.. I saw better strength gains, was able to be on longer and experienced less sides (when comparing to SD)

    Quote Originally Posted by RawStrength View Post
    That said isnt dzine and superdrol pretty damn similar?
    Structurally they are, kind of. Superdrol pretty much is methyl-drostanolone. Dymethazine (d-zine) is two molecules of methyl-drostanolone connected by an azine bond. This is why many people get the impression that sd and dzine will be similar or that dzine is twice as strong as sd since dzine is essentially 2 superdrols attached BUT these compounds are completely different in how they act in the body. When the azime bond breaks the 2 molecules left over dont act like 2 superdrols since the nitrogen bind (azine bond) causes them to be more androgenic and less anabolic than superdrol.

    I would have to double check but this is how I remember it

    Quote Originally Posted by RawStrength View Post
    Wouldnt superdrol and xtren give those same results (hard and lean look) or just about the same?
    Maybe
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  7. Quote Originally Posted by ManBeast
    Jbry hit it on the head, that would be an incredibly solid 8 week cycle. Just pick if you want to get really big or big and hard

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    You can harden up in PCT with the right supps. Throw a sarm in there. I like the #2 idea you had.
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  8. Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b
    My vote is for either dzine/xtren, or sd/pp, either one of those will bring huge strength gains & size. dzine/xtren will provide a lot more hardness/ripped look though.

    also, after 3-4 weeks on which ever you choose, I recomend you run 5aohp & mmv3 together for another 4 weeks.
    I 2nd dzine/xtren, you'll look hard as f*ck.

  9. God how about tren and s-drol or tren and epistane.You will look like a different person at the end of the cycle.

    The tren and epistane may be better cos you could run both for 6 weeks.Or you could bridge the superdrol and epistane.Its up to you but methyl's are the way to go imo.

  10. dzine is more androgenic than superdrol, but superdrol is more anabolic than dzine. On paper and from reviews I lean towards dzine...

    ManBeast
    -Saving random peoples' nuts, one pair at at time... PCT info:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/192992-pct-what-why.html
    -Are you really ready for a cycle? Read this link and be honest:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/191120-checklist-before-thinking.html
    *I am not a medical expert, my opinions are not professional, and I strongly suggest doing research of your own.*

  11. Is xtren more anabolic or more androgenic?

  12. Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post
    My vote is for either dzine/xtren, or sd/pp, either one of those will bring huge strength gains & size. dzine/xtren will provide a lot more hardness/ripped look though.

    also, after 3-4 weeks on which ever you choose, I recomend you run 5aohp & mmv3 together for another 4 weeks.
    Honestly I didnt see as much strength from dzine as I would of liked for some reason, but I agree it made me look really hard and shredded since I was already low BF, need to dose it higher next time I use it if I do.

  13. I'll buy it all from you!
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  14. Quote Originally Posted by JudoJosh View Post
    i second dzine.. I saw better strength gains, was able to be on longer and experienced less sides (when comparing to SD)



    Structurally they are, kind of. Superdrol pretty much is methyl-drostanolone. Dymethazine (d-zine) is two molecules of methyl-drostanolone connected by an azine bond. This is why many people get the impression that sd and dzine will be similar or that dzine is twice as strong as sd since dzine is essentially 2 superdrols attached BUT these compounds are completely different in how they act in the body. When the azime bond breaks the 2 molecules left over dont act like 2 superdrols since the nitrogen bind (azine bond) causes them to be more androgenic and less anabolic than superdrol.

    I would have to double check but this is how I remember it



    Maybe
    for the most part you are correct. and next time, you can just say, superdrol is methyl drostanolone (methasteron, or di-methyl dht if you will) instead of "pretty much is" for some, that may imply it is almost like methyl drostanolone.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by RawStrength View Post
    Is xtren more anabolic or more androgenic?
    it binds to the androgen receptor strongly and causes a strong anabolic responce.

  16. Quote Originally Posted by RawStrength View Post
    I really dont care to get big or gain too much weight. My main goal is to just gain stregth.. The more hardness/ripped look does sound appealing to me though. That said isnt dzine and superdrol pretty damn similar? Wouldnt superdrol and xtren give those same results (hard and lean look) or just about the same?

    Not questioning you jbry just tryna learn
    well, with that, I would say to go with dzine/dienedione.

    I would of suggested epi/dienedione, but you would have to dose the epi in the 40-50mg range, and im not sure if you have enough, and then, I still feel that dzine is a better option.

    sd and dzine are completely different steroids with very different results. I think you'll be very happy with dzine/pro dienolone ran into 5aohp/mmv3 for a 8 week strength cycle.

  17. Quote Originally Posted by jbryand101b View Post
    well, with that, I would say to go with dzine/dienedione.

    I would of suggested epi/dienedione, but you would have to dose the epi in the 40-50mg range, and im not sure if you have enough, and then, I still feel that dzine is a better option.

    sd and dzine are completely different steroids with very different results. I think you'll be very happy with dzine/pro dienolone ran into 5aohp/mmv3 for a 8 week strength cycle.
    How would you dose them since I have everything you mentioned ? (dzine, xtren, 5aohp, mmv3) ?

  18. D-zine would be my choice, better strength,weight,and size than i got from superdrol, hdrol, or epi. Unfortunately I had twice the sides of anything else I have run. Lethargy was BRUTAL! Tons of hairless as well, but the gains were pretty great at 30-30-30-45

  19. currently day 6 sdrol, really no sides other than BP stuff which isnt a big deal for me.
    Not gonna look at the scale for a little while.
    I agree dzine acts similarly to methyl masteron, except I think youll gain a little more weight from dzine.

  20. What is your cycle support? And what do you have lined up for PCT?

  21. Never tried it. I'm up 18 pounds on final week of sd.
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  22. Quote Originally Posted by rynie27 View Post
    D-zine would be my choice, better strength,weight,and size than i got from superdrol, hdrol, or epi. Unfortunately I had twice the sides of anything else I have run. Lethargy was BRUTAL! Tons of hairless as well, but the gains were pretty great at 30-30-30-45
    You probably would've had better luck staying around 15-20mg then.

    Either way lots of good info in this thread.


    I nabbed some dymethaberry steel crusher PH for cheap and I'm running them @ 15mg now....
    Hell I'm nervous about that & may drop to 10mg but I'll see how it goes.
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  23. Quote Originally Posted by AaronJP1

    You probably would've had better luck staying around 15-20mg then.

    Either way lots of good info in this thread.

    I nabbed some dymethaberry steel crusher PH for cheap and I'm running them @ 15mg now....
    Hell I'm nervous about that & may drop to 10mg but I'll see how it goes.
    ... Upped it to 20mg so far....



    We will see, although I do have TUDCA as well.
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  24. strength was rediculous in my last cycle

    went like this:
    Xtren 90/90/90/120/120/120
    Sd 0/ 0/ 0/ 20 / 20 /30

    blood pressure, lipids, and liver were pretty jacked up during cycle (got bloods in week 5), but PCT bounced em back.
    -just watch out for gyno and a crazy amount of shutdown after a cycle with those compounds.

  25. Where can you find caps?
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