Dieselbolan V2.0 VS Forged Extreme Mass For Summer Cycle Please Help

[DeChicchis91]

I want to start planning my second cycle for the summer i did Helladrol for my first cycle and got nice gains off of it but i want something stronger this time so i was looking into the Diesebolan and Forged Extreme Mass heres my layout of the cycle.

Dieselbolan Or Extreme Mass- 0/0/2/2/2/3
CEL Cycle Assist 8/8/8/8/8/8
Milk Thistle 2/2/2/2/2/2
Multi Vit
Fish Oil
Creatine
Proteins

PCT
Nolva If neccesary 20/20/10/10
CEL PCT Assist 4/4/4/4
PES Erase 3/3/3/3
DAA Powder or Iforce Intimidate
Pink Magic for some extra test boosting

3000-5000 Cals a day
200-250 Grams of protein a day
200-500 Carbs A day

Please help me get this cycle as good as possible if theres anything else i can add or take out please let me know

 

[phatmike0704]

I want to start planning my second cycle for the summer i did Helladrol for my first cycle and got nice gains off of it but i want something stronger this time so i was looking into the Diesebolan and Forged Extreme Mass heres my layout of the cycle.

Dieselbolan Or Extreme Mass- 0/0/2/2/2/3
CEL Cycle Assist 8/8/8/8/8/8
Milk Thistle 2/2/2/2/2/2
Multi Vit
Fish Oil
Creatine
Proteins

PCT
Nolva If neccesary 20/20/10/10
CEL PCT Assist 4/4/4/4
PES Erase 3/3/3/3
DAA Powder or Iforce Intimidate
Pink Magic for some extra test boosting

3000-5000 Cals a day
200-250 Grams of protein a day
200-500 Carbs A day

Please help me get this cycle as good as possible if theres anything else i can add or take out please let me know

for second cycle, i wouldnt go with any but its ur decision. but IMO, dieselbolan at 2/3/3/3/3/3/3. LMG and dzine are great for 5-6 weekers and take that "if necessary" off for the nolva. its always necessary

 

[DeChicchis91]

So don't do the cycle then? And what about beastdrol?

 

[phatmike0704]

well beastdrol is in extreme mass which is why i wouldnt cuz the compound SD aint really for beginners. what are ur goals? epistane would be awesome if u wanna lean up nicely with some muscle. if u wanna get more size, id go with dzine solo. honestly, with all the ph's we have these days, i can never decide on what to run lol

epi 30/40/40/40/40/50
or
dzine 30/30/45/45/45/45

 

[DeChicchis91]

I want size since I'm a hardgainer and since I already did helladrol and liked it I wanted to stick to that company and get diesel, beast, or extreme mass
And what's dzine?

 

[Gerbil]

Dimethazine=dzine. I would go with forged dm-zine personally I realize this isn't one of the options you were intending, but I feel if you want to run dimethazine you should run it solo first then stack it like in Dieselbolan.

I want size since I'm a hardgainer and since I already did helladrol and liked it I wanted to stick to that company and get diesel, beast, or extreme mass
And what's dzine?

 

[DeChicchis91]

I was just gonna stick with either beast or diesel cause I like the company and there reasonably priced and I think the forged extreme might be to harsh for me for now

 

[Gerbil]

Forged dm-zine if you can find it is legit and I wouldnt recommend diesel or beast for a second cycle. Again superdrol is very harsh which is beast, and dieselbolan is dimethazine with max lmg which I would recommend to use dimethazine by itself first.

 

[DeChicchis91]

It's just hard to find the forged dm zine and the cel dzine and the ones I found were way to expensive

 

[Gerbil]

I bought forged dm-zine for $30 less then 2 months ago. Just google it.

 

[DeChicchis91]

I found one what's the dosing look like for this and how long do I run it?

 

[Gerbil]

4 weeks at 2 pills a day to start if you are feeling frisky and sides are low you can bump it to 3.

 

[DeChicchis91]

Forged dzine- 0/0/2/2/3/3
CEL Cycle Assist 8/8/8/8/8/8
Milk Thistle 2/2/2/2/2/2
Multi Vit
Fish Oil
Creatine
Proteins

PCT
CEL PCT Assist 4/4/4/4
DAA Powder or Iforce Intimidate

Do I need an ai for this?

 

[Gerbil]

You will need nolva for pct and erase is usually a good addition to pct.

 

[DeChicchis91]

So nolva at 20/20/10/10 can you pm me a place to get it because I can't get it from around here anymore

 

[Gerbil]

Also if you should add erase to it to stop a rebound of estrogen.

 

[DeChicchis91]

That's what I'm gonna do at 3 caps a day what kind of gains do people usually get from dzine?

 

[Gerbil]

When used in a bulking diet, gains can range from 10-16lbs on a 4 week cycle at 30mg.
When used in a recomp diet, gains can range from 6-9lbs on a 4 week cycle at 20mg, while also possibly reducing body fat 0-2%.
When used in a cutting diet, gains can range from 4-6lbs on a 4 week cycle at 20mg, while also possibly reducing body fat 1-3%.

 

[DeChicchis91]

I don't want to cut any body fat I had a 20 pound gain from the helladrol and aren't beastdrol and dm zine both a form of sdrol?

 

[Gerbil]

No dimethazine (dm-zine) is two superdrol molecules linked by a nitrogen bond. Which does change how it interacts in the body.

 

[DeChicchis91]

Is there any bloat or estrogenic sides?

 

[Gerbil]

Phorce is like off brand Dieselbolan. Forged is a legit company except their black extreme seems a bit hooky to me although I have a bottle still.... lol.

i was wondering if forged was legit. their superdrol is cheap and its 90 caps instead of the usual 60. i was gonna buy a bottle to keep in case i decide to try it.
btw i am not a fan of mixed caps but i saw that Phorce sh1t around yesterday. its dimethazine and lmg.

 

[DeChicchis91]

What's better cel or forged cause I found some cel dzine

 

[Gerbil]

Forged. CEL hasnt made it in years so finding some that is still fully active is difficult.

 

[DeChicchis91]

Alright it's just hard to find people that ran a full cycle all the ones I read say they had to stop cause of the sides

 

[Gerbil]

Everyone is different, I will be running forged dm-zine again next month. I will be fully logging it. I have never had very bad sides just back pumps and slight lethargy.

 

[DeChicchis91]

For pct is forged post cycle better or the same as cel cycle assist and is forged liver support the same as cel cycle assist?

 

[Gerbil]

Forged post cycle is used for pct as it has test boosting properties. Forged liver support is very similar to CEL cycle assist but CEL has higher dosages and there are different ingredients.

 

[DeChicchis91]

So use cel cycle while on cycle and forged pct for off

 

[Gerbil]

Yes, but make sure you also use nolva during pct.

 

[DeChicchis91]

Nolva at 20/20/10/10 right

 

[Gerbil]

That will work

 

[DeChicchis91]

should i run a 4,5, or 6 week cycle on this stuff?

 

[Gerbil]

Dm-zine should be run 4-5 weeks basically run it to 4 weeks then make an assessment.

 

[DeChicchis91]

do you think one bottle will be alright?

 

[Gerbil]

Every bottle is 3.5 weeks at 3 caps a day so if you want to run it that high for 5 weeks yes. Start with 2 weeks at 2 caps a day then run it at 3 caps for 2 weeks is what I would do but you can run it at 3 caps a day for 3 weeks after the initial 2 weeks but you will need another bottle.