Are PH's the new Anabolic Steroids?

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by ManBeast View Post
    and while we're at it, why is it ok to go under the kinfe and get fake titties/ass/calves/lips/face etc. but adding hormones to ones' body and working HARD to change it is not?

    ManBeast
    because the hormones have unknown health consequences, and haven't been tested for safety. Even in the older ones, they haven't been FDA tested as safe at the doses bodybuilders use. Where the plastic surgery has had studies on safety.


  2. Quote Originally Posted by RH2012 View Post
    politicians need an evil to protect you and your kids from. steroids was a convenient one at the time. before they were vilified and made into controlled substances, they were prescribed routinely. they have been tested for safety as well as any other approved drug. all drugs have unknown concequences. it has nothing to do with your health. the drug companies would love to sell them to you if the gov would let them. very few drugs have any long term studies on safety. a 6 month trial is all the fda requires to approve a drug. it must work better than a placebo( as little as 1% better) and not kill anybody or hurt them permanently in the trial.
    there aren't any safety studies of doses in the 500-1000mg a week range.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    there aren't any safety studies of doses in the 500-1000mg a week range.
    I agree with you Easy but I can still go out buy a case of beer, bottle of whiskey and a pack of smokes, the politicians are not to worried about that.

  4. Quote Originally Posted by vidapreta View Post
    I agree with you Easy but I can still go out buy a case of beer, bottle of whiskey and a pack of smokes, the politicians are not to worried about that.
    I'm not saying its right, but that you can't compare plastic surgery to steroid use. In the end the US government has no constitutional right to prohibit you from ingesting anything you like. They at best for the "common good" have the authority to force companies to be transparent about ingredients and known safety issues. But year by year we become more and more of a nanny state.

  5. It is Sad.
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  6. ok, i just feel that i is hypocritical for people to inject botox, collogen, and implant **** into their bodies (and often look like crap), but we can't use hormones to look like gods (legally).

    ManBeast
    -Saving random peoples' nuts, one pair at at time... PCT info:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/192992-pct-what-why.html
    -Are you really ready for a cycle? Read this link and be honest:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/191120-checklist-before-thinking.html
    *I am not a medical expert, my opinions are not professional, and I strongly suggest doing research of your own.*

  7. Quote Originally Posted by ManBeast
    ok, i just feel that i is hypocritical for people to inject botox, collogen, and implant **** into their bodies (and often look like crap), but we can't use hormones to look like gods (legally).

    ManBeast
    Agreed. And the biggest argument that pisses me off is people say its cheating

    1. How is cutting yourself open and putting plastic in to look better not "cheating"
    2. It's only cheating if your sport bans it

    Edit:bigger not better

  8. Quote Originally Posted by ManBeast View Post
    ok, i just feel that i is hypocritical for people to inject botox, collogen, and implant **** into their bodies (and often look like crap), but we can't use hormones to look like gods (legally).

    ManBeast
    its not too hard to get a legitimate doctor to prescribe at 150mg a week. If the prescription is written on 200mg/ml cyp, and the prescription is written for 1 month at a time, you get a 10ml vial a month, for ability to dose at higher doses. that is the funny plus of how prescriptions are written, its unlikely for them to write a 6 / 8 / 12 week prescription. Even if they write as the 12 week, its so close that they'd write it as a 2 vials so you'd still be able to run at over 300/wk.

  9. I understand that, I do, I'm just saying the general attitdue also annoys the crap outta me... my girl is ok with (and talking about how if she loses weight and her tits go down, that I should buy her new ones), but she won't let me pin because she's afraid it will look bad on her if I get caught by the law... (sorry, probably venting more than I should LoL).
    -Saving random peoples' nuts, one pair at at time... PCT info:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/192992-pct-what-why.html
    -Are you really ready for a cycle? Read this link and be honest:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/191120-checklist-before-thinking.html
    *I am not a medical expert, my opinions are not professional, and I strongly suggest doing research of your own.*

  10. Quote Originally Posted by ManBeast View Post
    I understand that, I do, I'm just saying the general attitdue also annoys the crap outta me... my girl is ok with (and talking about how if she loses weight and her tits go down, that I should buy her new ones), but she won't let me pin because she's afraid it will look bad on her if I get caught by the law... (sorry, probably venting more than I should LoL).
    my wife never minded. Granted I am prescribed TRT not related to prior anabolics use (just old and was in crappy shape) but I get it in damn 1ml vials per week.

  11. Quote Originally Posted by RH2012 View Post
    there is a sh1tload of them anti-aging clinics there in fl. one of them might give you some bigger vials and some hgh to go with it. lol i dont know if insuranse pays for that kind of thing though.
    ...Go on...lol

  12. Quote Originally Posted by RH2012 View Post
    there is a sh1tload of them anti-aging clinics there in fl. one of them might give you some bigger vials and some hgh to go with it. lol i dont know if insuranse pays for that kind of thing though.
    nope. the antiaging clinics will write you scripts as high as 500mg a week, and whatever you want for ancilliaries. But its all through their related compounding pharmacies and insurance doesn't cover it. And their pricing is terrible on top.

  13. Quote Originally Posted by RH2012 View Post
    bummer. yeah i figured they charged out tha ying yang. i guess people pay it to stay legal.
    its $110 roughly for 10ml vials of test, $250 for 10ml vials of deca, winny or dbol 50mg caps around $4-5 each, hcg is $100 for 11,000 iu. GH is ludicrous, its something over $15/iu $500+ a month to do 1iu a day

  14. Well, regular pharmacy a 10ml is only around $70

  15. Costco pharmacy $50

    and the GH at 15/iu -----WOW~!

    -Matt

  16. Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL

    they aren't prohormones, they are designer steroids. people call them prohormones because it sounds more legal. according to US law, nothing except AMS's, LG's, Taurus' and I think one or two other products are truly legal prohormones. the others are illegal steroids just using a loophole in the DSHEA (the supplement laws) that forces the FDA to have to ask the manufacturer to prove their product has a natural source and is part of the food chain.

    epi is a steroid not a prohormone
    I know that lol, I'm just saying that Epi is very similar to Var in its effects, so I will buy Epi over Var.

  17. Ive been hearing that for 5+ years

    There's too much money to be made for creative lab rats to NOT find alternative hormonal solutions to illegalized substances

    They always have and always will.

    Quote Originally Posted by vidapreta View Post
    Don't worry, they'll all be illegal soon and then they'll all be steroids again.

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  18. Plus everyday we are learning more and more about how to synthesize compounds and how they affect the receptor sites.
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/223429-abscent-minded-log.html
    Quote Originally Posted by csa2179 View Post
    Pin the kittens with the tren, then attack the judges with the kittens, uppity bastards
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