Bulking cycle directly into cutting cycle
- 02-18-2012, 05:29 PM
Bulking cycle directly into cutting cycle
WHats up fellas..... The past weeks I went a little overboard with my
Bulking cycle. I probably
Have gained 4% bodyfat putting me around 17%. I was running ......
50mgs dbol (wks 1-4)
600 mg t400 (wks 1-?)
Ive manged to go from about 205 to 235 in the past 12 weeks gaining some
Excessive bodyfat which is very undesirable. I love the muscle
Gains I've gotten but as summer is approaching here in the US I don't want
To be hovering at 17% bodyfat.
My question is I'm
Still currently on this
Cycle and I was wondering if
I can switch over to cutting while
Running the t400 to get my
Bodyfat down. I don't want to
Wait 3 Months after PCT to cut because it'll be June by then. Does anyone have experience with switching a cycle
From bulking to cutting. Will I have to worry about muscle
Loss while still running 600mgs of t400. I've gained quite a bit in
Terms of muscle And definitely don't want to lose it all. I was thinking of dropping calories 500 below maintenance and adding 4 HIIT sessions a week and a low
Carb high protein diet. Is this ok ? Please
Help me out !
- 02-18-2012, 05:53 PM
how many cals are u wanting to cut back on.....i dont believe in a large shift of daily cals without slowly decreasing till you reach your goal..
- 02-18-2012, 06:13 PM
Well throughout this bulking cycle I've been taking in anywhere from 4000-4500 cals, 400-500g carbs and 400-500 protein.... I was thinking of cutting the carbs down and the cals down and working with it until I find a sweet spot. I'm just worried about losing muscle. I know the test400 SHOULD preserve muscle but I don't like taking chances. Have you ever switched a bulker Over to a cutter ? I've found a few threads on It but nothing really
In detail. I just want to take Advantage of the rest of The gear I have and
Drop some bodyfat too. Then after pct I would maintain throughout
02-18-2012, 06:16 PM
Ahhh, this dilemma. I've got the same issue. I'm just going to bulk through pct and right into next winter because summers start pretty soon in AZ. I don't see any other way unless you're running a 20 week cycle. Maybe some more experienced guys will chime in with a solution.
02-18-2012, 06:20 PM
Hahaa I know I like the whole bulking process but there comes a time when your like ****ttt it's not all muscle. That's why I need to Find a solution because I don't want to cut without the gear and lose EVERYTHING I've gained in the past three months. I don't think I would
Lose much muscle if any as long as I'm still on the test400. I'd just be switching my diet and adding hiit and cardio.... I hope some more experienced people chime in too cause I'm puzzled at this point.
02-18-2012, 06:28 PM
You could start pct now, throw a couple hundred bucks at it (look at fueled passion's current cycle, his plan for pct looks freakin killer) get labs in late may and if you're good, jump on some crazy @ss cycle like test, tren, winny, with some clen 2 weekers. Just throwin out ideas, don't take me literally.
02-18-2012, 06:32 PM
That's what I would like to do but I travel a lot for work and I won't be able to cycle again until next fall or at least late summer.... So I wish I could use the tren over the summer because that gets you absolutely shredded. I SHOULD have started my bulker in October instead of December though. Then I wouldnt be in this predicament lol. Now I'm that person searching for a quick fix for my long term mistake haha
02-18-2012, 06:39 PM
02-18-2012, 08:23 PM
02-18-2012, 08:41 PM
02-18-2012, 08:44 PM
Sorry what I was trying to say is that I already have the sauce cause I buy in bulk but yeah I was thinking of just switching my diet and adding hiit and low intensity cardio starting this week and dropping my test down to 400 a week just to keep my gains. I have everything for pct as well so that's not a prblem. My main question is will I lose my gains from bulking if I'm still running 400mgs of test while dieting and cutting.... Thats my main concern
02-18-2012, 09:38 PM
02-18-2012, 09:54 PM
I don't think so. Thats why aas are so great in a calorie deficit. I had a couple bad weeks on cycle that I usually would have lost strength and size. Nothin... I didn't gain. But I lost no size or strength at all
02-18-2012, 10:28 PM
How much longer are you planning to cycle to do the cut? Might take several weeks to do the cut.
I haven't tried to go from a bulk into a cut personally, but I'd think you'd retain your muscle gains if you're still on the t400 throughout the cut. People cut with aas and successfully keep their gains. I don't see why the same shouldn't apply to you even when going into a cut from a bulk. As mentioned earlier, adjust your calories down gradually over a few days to start. Anyway, never tried it myself, but it seems possible to do.
02-19-2012, 12:12 AM
Thanks guys... I figured it would be alright to do. And yea im going to be using the remaining amout of my test e the switching over to t400. I might even throw an EC stack in there for the last few weeks. I just was Concerned about muscle loss but hey i guess you guys are right.... Thats exactly why we cut with gear--- to retain muscle mass and strength in a calorie deficit. I'd be interested in hearing from someone who has tried the bulk directly into a cut if anyone too if anyone out there has. If not I'll post again in a few weeks and let you guys know how it's going just for future reference. I figure if I do a low cal high protein diet I shouldn't lose much if any of my recently attained muscle from bulking, just the unnecessary fat....
02-20-2012, 05:57 PM
Well today I blew my shoulder out doing DB benches so I'm gonna finish up my test with a clean diet and more cardio and try to lose some fat before pct......first time getting injured on cycle
02-20-2012, 06:37 PM
Sorry to hear about your injury, glad you are playing it safe though and not trying to push through something like that.
-Saving random peoples' nuts, one pair at at time... PCT info:
-Are you really ready for a cycle? Read this link and be honest:
*I am not a medical expert, my opinions are not professional, and I strongly suggest doing research of your own.*
02-20-2012, 07:21 PM
02-22-2012, 01:00 PM
Thanks for the replies everyone.... Since I only have like four weeks left of my
Cycle I think I'll finish it off and just do cardio and restrict my diet to Try to get rid of some fat before pct.... I can't seem to find any threads with anyone that's had a similar situation. Basically I'm going to cut for four weeks with high hopes of
Maintaining my gains from bulking because I'll still be running test ? Does it
Make sense to do this ?
02-22-2012, 02:15 PM
and now you know next time that gaining excessive BF is certainly not worth the risk of trying to cut it in hopes of keeping the lean tissue that was gained.
What if you reached a hard 218 or 219 lbs instead of 235, but did it very strictly and executed it perfectly. Perhaps even LOSING BF in the process.....this CAN happen with the right anabolics and the right regimen.
You now have more experience and that is not a bad thing.
02-22-2012, 04:41 PM
Yeah man it's no fun trying to hurry to lose the fat because it results In an excessive amount of muscle loss as well---- which is the last thing anyone wants... But hey I've learned my Lesson and wow does it suck gettig hurt on cycle too.... Does anyone know about how Long it will take for a dislocated shoulder to heal enough for me to get back into the gym ??
02-22-2012, 04:50 PM
I would say extend yur cycle a lil bit and go with a caloric deficit.. Pretty much yur original plan but DO NOT try to cut on pct
02-22-2012, 04:53 PM
Dan thts gonna take a while bro..I dislocated my elbow back in high school.. That took about 4 weeks to get back but mind you I was I high school so I healed much faster than I would now, i wasnt back at 100%, and theres a lot more to the shoulder tha elbow.. Do a lot of internal rotator cuff exercisesOriginally Posted by town44
02-22-2012, 07:25 PM
Yeah I think I'm gonna extend it six weeks so i can cut before pct.... One of y
Buddies made the mistake of cutting during and after pct and he lost everything.... I mean EVERYTHING. So I definitely won't make that mistake. I'll be running at least 500-600mgs for six more weeks while cutting. Will I lose muscle though being it that I won't be able to lift ? I mean I wouldn't think that I would because the test is anti-catabolic. But I've never had to go six weeks without lifting so I'm clueless in that sense ?? Help me out if anyone has any input on this.... Thanks guys
02-22-2012, 08:17 PM
Ok well one thing Is for sure yu could still do legs lol.. But I yur not going to lift just pct. there's no point in being on if you can't workout to reach yur original goal. Either way you decide to go, the beach body ain't happening this year brothaOriginally Posted by town44
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