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    sd no sides!


    9 days at 20 mg.... Slow gains kinda... No Sides at all... Bump to 30? It's transform sd
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    You're only 9 days in... so, no, I do not recommend bumping it up to 30. How long are you running it? I wouldn't even think about increasing the dose until at least day 15.
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    Lol for sure. Just checkin. Would I b respondin well to it?
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    yeah good call, 2 weeks would be a better indicator of how its treating you. then bump it.
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    Thanks brothers!!!
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    i was kinda feelin the same way im about 10 o 11 days in now of M-Stane SD starting to wonder if its a little bit underdosed but im gonna stay at 20 till the end of day 14
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    Eating enough???? Seriously, the guys I've personally seen have great SD results are walking around with clean food in their hands 24/7. I only use it to stay cut and strong but never increase my calories. So it works well for me for maintenance type cycle at 10-20.
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    I'm up 10th pounds goin on ten days I'm shocked but wonderin cause Im having 0 Sides and I know its the harshest compound
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    Yer a bigger dude, *not* saying to bump the dose yet, plus, many of the sides are due to the buildup of the compound in your body (IMHO of course).

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    I got you bro u helped me a lot. I'll wait
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    Quote Originally Posted by Airborne42 View Post
    I'm up 10th pounds goin on ten days I'm shocked but wonderin cause Im having 0 Sides and I know its the harshest compound
    What constitutes zero sides? Seriously, have you had blood work done or is this all just how you feel?

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    Not on this cycle
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    ive never had anything bunk before but im starting to wonder if my sd is im 11 days in. ran 20 mg for like the irst 9 days and the last 2 at 30 mg, i mean my vascularity looks good, but it kinda always does even when im not on cycle. my weight is literally the same as day 1 of the cycle too
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    the M-stane lists "2a,17a-dimethyl-5a-androst-3-one-17b-ol" which is slightly different from the SD listed on here in another thread, where i think it loses the "5a"???...so different companies just tweak the compound to make a different version? or are they all the same damn thing despite slight variations on the label?
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    idk lol, i just wanna figure out if my sd is bunk since i got it off amazon and im almost 12 days in with nothing
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    no sides/gains? Are you giving the SD enough carbs to work with?

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    yeah, which is the weird thing.. my shakes have 60g protein and 85g carbs and i take at least 2 a day on top of 3 full meals, i mean this IS my first sd run so im no expert on sd yet, but i was expecting a little something, even just some sides if that, but nothing
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    Hrmmmmmmmmmmmmmm and the plot thickens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Masciaman View Post
    idk lol, i just wanna figure out if my sd is bunk since i got it off amazon and im almost 12 days in with nothing
    so long as it was factory sealed and is in the proper bottle packaging...I doubt where you bought it has much effect on it being fake or not. You just end up paying more on ebay and (maybe) amazon than you would at some discount online supp stores....but the supp stores are always out of the good stuff lol....
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    i just find it weird how like every sd log ive seen people have results even at the end of week 1 (some weight increase) and ive seen nothing so far and im like almost at the end of week 2
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    Are you having to do a lot of cardio for one reason or another? Getting enough rest?

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    yeah if you are eating enough (calories mind you not just protein)....and weight training....you SHOULD see increases on the scale. very odd....you sure your eating like 3500-4K cals? something like that? those two shakes are only about 1200 calories total between them mind you, so are you getting another 2400+ from the other three times you eat? some people eat like birds as far as calories go since they are eating so clean.....
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    yeah for real, don't do any cardio for fukcs sake either
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    only cardio i do is sometime 10 min jog pre workout on the treadmill..no more than that, and i eat snacks and things in between meals, so its not like its just 3 meals and the 2 shakes, i want to bump up to 30 mg and if i still see nothing by the end of week 3 im just going to stop taking it..i just hate to waste an entire pct on something that didnt even effect me
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    your pretty good size also remember, you probably gotta eat more than even what I just recommended....why not write down your cals/macros for a few days here....take the time to write down EVERYTHING you eat....go look it up if there is no label, weigh it if possible to get accurate numbers....see if your getting 4-5K in cals. I bet your lacking in cals, but hey ....the PH could be bunk, who knows? I write down every freaking thing I eat and all the macros, 365
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    not that i think my cals are low for my weight, but this far into an sd cycle wouldnt i also be noticing some strength increase also?
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    SD is very anabolic and relativly low on the androgenic side of things, so the strength gains are more likely a secondary effect from the growth of the muscles (but this is just my theory).

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    yeah...what he ^^^ said LOL
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    if this stuff DOES turn out to be bunk, what would you do about pct
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    Eh, do you have any way to verify you aren't shut down at all?

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    I guess you don't need one, if the stuff isn't real/is just random powder? you didn't use anything therefore don't do a PCT.
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    i cant verify for example by getting bloodwork done due to where i am located right now :/
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    I'd run a short PCT for sure, just to be safe.

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    ok that sounds like a good idea manbeast, i just didnt wanna waste an entire pct, should i run lets say nolva for 2 weeks along with daa and erase 2 weeks after i finish the nolva?
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    Sounds good to me.

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    alright, thanks bros.
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    imho i think it is fake. I have done A LOT of gear, (test, sd, epi, dimeth, tren, estra 4 9, all sorts and each time i noticed it. I did fake dbol once and knew it was fake, if you have to ask especially with SD especially 2-3 weeks in, ya i say it is either fake, super low dosed or a different product, has your strength gone up a lot that will help u decide
    Quote Originally Posted by Masciaman View Post
    i just find it weird how like every sd log ive seen people have results even at the end of week 1 (some weight increase) and ive seen nothing so far and im like almost at the end of week 2
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    i havent noticed anything man lol
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    I hope its not fake, keep taking it to be sure LOL....got 2 bottles of M-stane myself....if you say its for shyt, I might go out and get something else....not sure what is good for a 4 week dbol style kickstart though....if all the SD stuff is garbage anymore....
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    i switched to fake dbol from dragon ( 2-cyano-17a-methyl-17b-acetoxy-5a-androst-2-ene) and i lost a bunch of strength in like 5 days knew it was fake, i say it is fake bro, no doubt.
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    i havent noticed anything man lol
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