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  1. I guess you don't need one, if the stuff isn't real/is just random powder? you didn't use anything therefore don't do a PCT.


  2. i cant verify for example by getting bloodwork done due to where i am located right now :/
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  3. I'd run a short PCT for sure, just to be safe.

    ManBeast
    -Saving random peoples' nuts, one pair at at time... PCT info:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/192992-pct-what-why.html
    -Are you really ready for a cycle? Read this link and be honest:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/191120-checklist-before-thinking.html
    *I am not a medical expert, my opinions are not professional, and I strongly suggest doing research of your own.*

  4. ok that sounds like a good idea manbeast, i just didnt wanna waste an entire pct, should i run lets say nolva for 2 weeks along with daa and erase 2 weeks after i finish the nolva?

  5. Sounds good to me.

    ManBeast
    -Saving random peoples' nuts, one pair at at time... PCT info:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/192992-pct-what-why.html
    -Are you really ready for a cycle? Read this link and be honest:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/191120-checklist-before-thinking.html
    *I am not a medical expert, my opinions are not professional, and I strongly suggest doing research of your own.*

  6. alright, thanks bros.

  7. imho i think it is fake. I have done A LOT of gear, (test, sd, epi, dimeth, tren, estra 4 9, all sorts and each time i noticed it. I did fake dbol once and knew it was fake, if you have to ask especially with SD especially 2-3 weeks in, ya i say it is either fake, super low dosed or a different product, has your strength gone up a lot that will help u decide
    Quote Originally Posted by Masciaman View Post
    i just find it weird how like every sd log ive seen people have results even at the end of week 1 (some weight increase) and ive seen nothing so far and im like almost at the end of week 2

  8. i havent noticed anything man lol

  9. I hope its not fake, keep taking it to be sure LOL....got 2 bottles of M-stane myself....if you say its for shyt, I might go out and get something else....not sure what is good for a 4 week dbol style kickstart though....if all the SD stuff is garbage anymore....

  10. i switched to fake dbol from dragon ( 2-cyano-17a-methyl-17b-acetoxy-5a-androst-2-ene) and i lost a bunch of strength in like 5 days knew it was fake, i say it is fake bro, no doubt.
    Quote Originally Posted by Masciaman View Post
    i havent noticed anything man lol
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  11. you should run a 4 weeks spawn cycle (estra 4, 9 and epistane) or just estra 4, 9 it is great bulking and strength kinda like dbol even though it is 19nor-testosterone product not a derivative of testosterone extremely close to testoserones biological structure like dbol is, u ever tried estra 4 9?
    Quote Originally Posted by WARBIRDWS6 View Post
    I hope its not fake, keep taking it to be sure LOL....got 2 bottles of M-stane myself....if you say its for shyt, I might go out and get something else....not sure what is good for a 4 week dbol style kickstart though....if all the SD stuff is garbage anymore....

  12. Quote Originally Posted by Husker89 View Post
    you should run a 4 weeks spawn cycle (estra 4, 9 and epistane) or just estra 4, 9 it is great bulking and strength kinda like dbol even though it is 19nor-testosterone product not a derivative of testosterone extremely close to testoserones biological structure like dbol is, u ever tried estra 4 9?
    No never tried that....its a legal/still for sale PH/designer right? If so I'll check it out. I have a lot of epi right now matter of fact, doing a 6 weeker and will have 2 bottles or so leftover of that.

  13. i dont think it is legal maybe run that 13 ethylstuff instead but boy does that estra put size and strength on ya
    Quote Originally Posted by WARBIRDWS6 View Post
    No never tried that....its a legal/still for sale PH/designer right? If so I'll check it out. I have a lot of epi right now matter of fact, doing a 6 weeker and will have 2 bottles or so leftover of that.

  14. m14add is a dianabol precursor and is still being sold at nutrition arsenal for 25 bucks!
    Quote Originally Posted by WARBIRDWS6 View Post
    No never tried that....its a legal/still for sale PH/designer right? If so I'll check it out. I have a lot of epi right now matter of fact, doing a 6 weeker and will have 2 bottles or so leftover of that.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by Husker89 View Post
    m14add is a dianabol precursor and is still being sold at nutrition arsenal for 25 bucks!
    I was looking for that stuff actually, others had mentioned it....I'll check it out, thanks. which of the company's are best is what my question is.

  16. husker, is the m14add legit? because i couldnt find any when i looked, and warbird, part of why i think my m-stane is fake is because when you look up m-stane it has a white cap, mine had black caps, idk why, i cant find a worthy log of m-stane, and im 2 weeks in and feel nothing lol. kinda depressing but thats what i get for trying to go the cheap route..not doing that again il tell ya that much

  17. Quote Originally Posted by Masciaman View Post
    husker, is the m14add legit? because i couldnt find any when i looked, and warbird, part of why i think my m-stane is fake is because when you look up m-stane it has a white cap, mine had black caps, idk why, i cant find a worthy log of m-stane, and im 2 weeks in and feel nothing lol. kinda depressing but thats what i get for trying to go the cheap route..not doing that again il tell ya that much
    yeah mine has a black cap as well. I wasn't trying to be cheap, its just that was the only brand I found where I bought the P-stanz I got from. I figured it was legit. but maybe not

  18. idk maybe youll have better luck haha. debating between helladrol,beastdrol or m14add.. gonna order it tonight.. cant decide!!!!!!!!!!

  19. Quote Originally Posted by Masciaman View Post
    idk maybe youll have better luck haha. debating between helladrol,beastdrol or m14add.. gonna order it tonight.. cant decide!!!!!!!!!!
    yeah I'm not using it for about 6 months on a future cycle....so I guess I'll monitor the situation as it goes and see what feedback is listed on here in the meantime. If you see any logs pop up let me know, too many logs all over the place on this board....most not in the log section of course LOL...

  20. Quote Originally Posted by Airborne42 View Post
    I'm up 10th pounds goin on ten days I'm shocked but wonderin cause Im having 0 Sides and I know its the harshest compound
    10 lbs in only ten days is a big increase. I think you just need to adjust your expectations to be more realistic. As for the lack of sides, consider yourself lucky, but also bear in mind that lack of sides doesn't mean you aren't risking your health. Also, sometimes it just takes a while for the negative sides to manifest, but they might still eventually come.

    Quote Originally Posted by WARBIRDWS6 View Post
    the M-stane lists "2a,17a-dimethyl-5a-androst-3-one-17b-ol" which is slightly different from the SD listed on here in another thread, where i think it loses the "5a"???...so different companies just tweak the compound to make a different version? or are they all the same damn thing despite slight variations on the label?
    The nomeclature you listed above is correct for sd. There's more than one way to write the nomenclature.

  21. Quote Originally Posted by Masciaman
    ive never had anything bunk before but im starting to wonder if my sd is im 11 days in. ran 20 mg for like the irst 9 days and the last 2 at 30 mg, i mean my vascularity looks good, but it kinda always does even when im not on cycle. my weight is literally the same as day 1 of the cycle too
    I wouldn't use SD either way. A guy named blue devil ran it and didn't have good luck with it also
    Hardcore Purus Labs {Rep}
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  22. Quote Originally Posted by WARBIRDWS6
    your pretty good size also remember, you probably gotta eat more than even what I just recommended....why not write down your cals/macros for a few days here....take the time to write down EVERYTHING you eat....go look it up if there is no label, weigh it if possible to get accurate numbers....see if your getting 4-5K in cals. I bet your lacking in cals, but hey ....the PH could be bunk, who knows? I write down every freaking thing I eat and all the macros, 365
    I dont right down or count spit...
    Hardcore Purus Labs {Rep}
    Lift the fücking weight from the floor, or leave it on the ground. The thoughts are supposed to be daunting. The pain is meant to be tormenting.

  23. There are 2 kinds on nutrition arsenal M1-d by rock hard supplements and m14add by competetive edge labs. I havent used any but CEL have always been legit with everyone i know and me personally ive taken their alpha one. I would got with THE CEL one it is 25 too i believe
    Quote Originally Posted by Masciaman View Post
    husker, is the m14add legit? because i couldnt find any when i looked, and warbird, part of why i think my m-stane is fake is because when you look up m-stane it has a white cap, mine had black caps, idk why, i cant find a worthy log of m-stane, and im 2 weeks in and feel nothing lol. kinda depressing but thats what i get for trying to go the cheap route..not doing that again il tell ya that much

  24. Quote Originally Posted by Husker89 View Post
    There are 2 kinds on nutrition arsenal M1-d by rock hard supplements and m14add by competetive edge labs. I havent used any but CEL have always been legit with everyone i know and me personally ive taken their alpha one. I would got with THE CEL one it is 25 too i believe
    30mg per cap...what is the suggested dosage on this? per day? for an "average" dose, nothing crazy....

  25. Quote Originally Posted by WARBIRDWS6

    30mg per cap...what is the suggested dosage on this? per day? for an "average" dose, nothing crazy....
    Just trade the damn bulk or buy me some
    Lean
    Hardcore Purus Labs {Rep}
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  26. Quote Originally Posted by AaronJP1 View Post
    Just trade the damn bulk or buy me some
    Lean
    I'm not trading no bulks got-damnit......I just bought one AMv3 off island....so if you want to sell, do it while people (me) are buying I need two more, three total. Don't care if its v2 or v3 at this point ....v2 had 150/150 of 1dhea and 4dhea and v3 has 250 of 4dhea...so the v3 is actually better, but it has the AHv3 component in it and I wanted to keep it pure test not DHT. anyways, I'm picking up v2 or v3, don't need it till 6 months from now so I'm in no rush. I'll just pick them up as I go.

  27. I don't know why you guys like to trade when you got a MF'er like me with cash....cash is king, you can buy WHATEVER you want with it remember? LOL, trades are just that....take what you have offered to you with no room to change your mind or whatever.

  28. ^^ alight. V2 is golden. It's hard to find
    I do need some andro lean though so we will see

    V3 is bunk look what happened to R1 balla haha
    Hardcore Purus Labs {Rep}
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  29. Quote Originally Posted by AaronJP1 View Post
    ^^ alight. V2 is golden. It's hard to find
    I do need some andro lean though so we will see

    V3 is bunk look what happened to R1 balla haha
    that is physically impossible.....250mg of 4dhea vrs 300mg of 1 and 4dhea mix, then they are BOTH bunk lol. also the v3 has like 1 cap worth of AHv3 in addition to the 1 and 4 dhea. no way its worse. R1 must not have been "doin' it right" LOL

  30. Quote Originally Posted by WARBIRDWS6

    that is physically impossible.....250mg of 4dhea vrs 300mg of 1 and 4dhea mix, then they are BOTH bunk lol. also the v3 has like 1 cap worth of AHv3 in addition to the 1 and 4 dhea. no way its worse. R1 must not have been "doin' it right" LOL


    or a non responder haha
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    Lift the fücking weight from the floor, or leave it on the ground. The thoughts are supposed to be daunting. The pain is meant to be tormenting.
  

  
 

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