Self Fulfilling Prophecies and methyl steroids

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  1. RoidGracie
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    Too bad most of the side effects are most likely not going to show up until years down the road. If you think you are safe because you took something years ago, and you seemed to be fine for years, you may be in for a surprise. I just had to go to the doctor 2 days after finishing an H-Drol cycle. I'm not going into details but it's serious. Do I think it caused my problem directly, probably not possible. Do I think it exacerbated something I already had but did not know, yes, I think there is a strong chance of that. Needless to say, maybe this was a wakeup call, I will never touch another PH as long as a live. In fact, I'm not touching anything else once I finish my very light PCT. Good luck to you, if I could go back, I'd never have touched this stuff. Sometimes you have to learn the hard way. Keep thinking it won't happen to you.........like I did.


  2. Quote Originally Posted by RoidGracie View Post
    Too bad most of the side effects are most likely not going to show up until years down the road. If you think you are safe because you took something years ago, and you seemed to be fine for years, you may be in for a surprise. I just had to go to the doctor 2 days after finishing an H-Drol cycle. I'm not going into details but it's serious. Do I think it caused my problem directly, probably not possible. Do I think it exacerbated something I already had but did not know, yes, I think there is a strong chance of that. Needless to say, maybe this was a wakeup call, I will never touch another PH as long as a live. In fact, I'm not touching anything else once I finish my very light PCT. Good luck to you, if I could go back, I'd never have touched this stuff. Sometimes you have to learn the hard way. Keep thinking it won't happen to you.........like I did.
    Great point!
    A) You will not have any idea what long-term effects of these things may have until much later in life.

    B) When you are young (when I was young) I could not see beyond the moment-- I want to do what I want to do and the negative stuff "won't happen to me."

    The key is to educate yourself, dialogue, study others' experiences and approach with caution. Thankfully M1T is pretty much a thing of the past. Well, at least in terms of what's currently available and much better. I do still see M1T around available from some places, so somebody still must be using it!
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  3. M1T is very much still alive in canada. We don't have all the pro-hormone products and m1t is still pushed my the smaller supp company on kids who want somehting and don;t want to inject.
  4. RoidGracie
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    I don't think M1T and Superdrol are all that people should be concerned with. I don't really think any of these compounds are safe, and not just the PH/PS's.

  5. Don't worry guys the .Gov is going to ban everything to save the children. You can all stop this whiney thread now

    Take action, don't whine.
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  6. I'm anti kids on steroids.
    Quote Originally Posted by B5150 View Post
    I can recall a time not so very long ago. A time when M1T was "extreme" in regard to its potential dangers. A time when use and mis-use was a very serious concern by many members on the board. A time when statements like; "every kid wanting to get huge will be eating this **** like candy" and was of a serious concern. Our conscienses were very finely tuned to the potential dangers of the use and abuse of these compounds by anyone, and especially young kids just coming into the BB world/sport, with very little to no training and diet experience.

    Fast forward to today. We have 20-21yr olds weighing in at 145-165lb advising other 145-165lb kids who want to get huge by doing this or that methyl. Kids who don't know how to eat or train right. Kids who have trained for the first time in their lives now wanting to take steroids.

    What happened? Where is the board conscience that used to be so prominant? Is there a board conscience?

    Please note: I am not anti steroids, nor anti kids (young men), nor anti kids on steroids. I'm sure this may offend a few too many. But surely there are some here who remember "back in the day" when we used conscience and caution when supplying advise.

    I'm sure I'm not alone here.

  7. im 20 haha and yeh i have taken M1T ages ago tho, i thought it gave me gynecomastia but i have seen 4 maybe 5 different doc's and they all tell me its in my head. i have even had blood work done checking my hormones and there all in range. only thing that was **** bout M1T was the stretch marks it gave me!! i advise all my friends to stay away from it. personally i prefer stacking rebound xt with creatine. i gained bout a stone on that ! rebound xt at 3 caps a day just under 2 months and CEE trust me that does the trick! peace.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by RoidGracie View Post
    Too bad most of the side effects are most likely not going to show up until years down the road. If you think you are safe because you took something years ago, and you seemed to be fine for years, you may be in for a surprise. I just had to go to the doctor 2 days after finishing an H-Drol cycle. I'm not going into details but it's serious. Do I think it caused my problem directly, probably not possible. Do I think it exacerbated something I already had but did not know, yes, I think there is a strong chance of that. Needless to say, maybe this was a wakeup call, I will never touch another PH as long as a live. In fact, I'm not touching anything else once I finish my very light PCT. Good luck to you, if I could go back, I'd never have touched this stuff. Sometimes you have to learn the hard way. Keep thinking it won't happen to you.........like I did.

    Do you have any research, scientific studies that can back that claim up? How do you know problems wont arise until years down the road? It seems like just a guess to me. I did andro when it first came out in the late 90's, and haven't had any problems. That was 10 years ago.

    Whatever problem your doc discovered was probably due to genetics, or something else. I doubt PH's had anything to do with it. What did your doctor say about it?

  9. Quote Originally Posted by Heat Miser View Post
    I can recall a time not so very long ago. A time when M1T was "extreme" in regard to its potential dangers. A time when use and mis-use was a very serious concern by many members on the board. A time when statements like; "every kid wanting to get huge will be eating this **** like candy" and was of a serious concern. Our conscienses were very finely tuned to the potential dangers of the use and abuse of these compounds by anyone, and especially young kids just coming into the BB world/sport, with very little to no training and diet experience.

    Fast forward to today. We have 20-21yr olds weighing in at 145-165lb advising other 145-165lb kids who want to get huge by doing this or that methyl. Kids who don't know how to eat or train right. Kids who have trained for the first time in their lives now wanting to take steroids.

    What happened? Where is the board conscience that used to be so prominant? Is there a board conscience?

    Please note: I am not anti steroids, nor anti kids (young men), nor anti kids on steroids. I'm sure this may offend a few too many. But surely there are some here who remember "back in the day" when we used conscience and caution when supplying advise.

    I'm sure I'm not alone here.
    I disagree. I still see tons of posts where the first 37 answers to a new kid's question are, "research", and "take your time and learn before you jump in".

  10. Quote Originally Posted by ironlunch View Post
    Do you have any research, scientific studies that can back that claim up? How do you know problems wont arise until years down the road? It seems like just a guess to me. I did andro when it first came out in the late 90's, and haven't had any problems. That was 10 years ago.

    Whatever problem your doc discovered was probably due to genetics, or something else. I doubt PH's had anything to do with it. What did your doctor say about it?
    Yep. When I was 19 and there were no boards like AM, I actually used andro to taper off a 6 week sustanon cycle. Imagine my surprise when I gained almost as much coming off as I did while on.

    I consider my self lucky, now knowing what I know. But the fact remains, I'm fine.

  11. I am thinking of trying cellucor p6 black for my very 1st prohoromone cycle. Anyone know anything about this stuff. Steroids would be cheaper I have no doubt. I am bumping 30 and feel a good cycle of such product will induce growth I wan. 20 lbs of mass for now.

  12. ya......................

  13. Quote Originally Posted by B5150 View Post
    I am not in disagreement with any of these replies.

    But in regard to them I would like to add this. It is always good to give sound advise when it is asked for. But in some cases it is showing someone how to do the wrong thing the right way. But I will not go into what is right or wrong and level of experience for PH/PS use. But there should be some sort of prerequisite of knowledge or level of understanding demonstrated by the inquirer before such advise is delivered.

    I will say that I think encouraging someone to search for themselves is the better way to go. For instance; "Hey bro, search around some on the board using the "search function". Use the key words "PCT, NOLVA, 6-OXO". Read up a bunch on this stuff". I'm not going to ramble on using examples.

    "We can feed them fish, or teach them to be fishermen"
    i do like to take it one step further sometimes and actually pull up a couple threads to have them read, just the ones i found the most useful information on to get them started. replies that always annoy me to read are "use search", with no extra help. the poster may actually be very lazy, or they may just not know exactly what to search for- and amongst all the golden threads around here its good to help them avoid those that are not so good.

  14. Quote Originally Posted by TheUsual View Post
    More in line with this discussion, has anyone else noticed the vast difference between post and thread counts of the PH and Anabolics Forum Sections vs. the Diet & Nutrition and Training sections? That right there sums up the problem I think. I am starting to follow the school of thought of "maybe it's a good thing the gov't is outlawing PH's".
    lol, outlaw PH and only outlaws will have PHs

  15. where's the icon where i bang my face into a wall for helping revive an *OLD* post

  16. Quote Originally Posted by rbuecker View Post
    lol, outlaw PH and only outlaws will have PHs
    I think 80% of the threads in Anabolics are people with 1-20 post count. Only like 5-8 of em I have seen like that in the last 12 months were from intelligent people who knew their crap, but wanted to openly discuss something or expand their knowledge.

  17. Yeah it is crazy. A co-worker of mine, her 14 year old brother got his hand on some havoc, figuring it was legal and all that. I explained to him that it was a STEROID and that he would get gyno if he took it and fcuk up his endocrine system for life. I bought the bottle off him, told him I could unload it at my gym, just to make sure he didn't take any. Can you belive it... 14 yrs. old.

  18. Quote Originally Posted by CrazyChemist View Post
    Yeah it is crazy. A co-worker of mine, her 14 year old brother got his hand on some havoc, figuring it was legal and all that. I explained to him that it was a STEROID and that he would get gyno if he took it and fcuk up his endocrine system for life. I bought the bottle off him, told him I could unload it at my gym, just to make sure he didn't take any. Can you belive it... 14 yrs. old.
    Why the heck does someone 14 need ANY supplement other than some beef n chicken! Heck... I wieghtlifted on curly fries, mozzarella sticks, and cheeseburgers back then. And it worked lol!

    EDIT: DAAAANNNNGGGG man now I am super craving some mozzarella sticks >.< oh the yummyness!

  19. Personally i think if your under 25 you shouldnt even look at PH. The Risk reward ratio isnt worth it. 18-24 I could work out after work 9pm till midnight go out party! get up at 6am work an eat a crap diet an still makes gains an be ripped! (youth) today If i have one Drinkng night my workouts suck for a day or 2! If your under 25 exhaust all your other resources first, Perfect diet, Rest, solid workouts, Then if meeded change up gears! new workout new diet etc. etc. If u hit a wall then consider PH. This Body modification is a marathon not a sprint! Long term health outways short term gains.\
    My 2cents

  20. I wish I knew more about them when first started taking them 2000

  21. Hey guys this is my very first post, before you rip me apart I was in GNC the other day (because it is next to my place and I needed my pwo sup bad) and some guy who never lifted before asked the store rep "what can i take to gain the most muscle" and the guy pointed him right to Methyl-1D and advised him to take, I went over and gave both of them a load of crap...people just don't understand what these things are or how to use them
  22. dpfisher
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    Quote Originally Posted by jayts22 View Post
    Hey guys this is my very first post, before you rip me apart I was in GNC the other day (because it is next to my place and I needed my pwo sup bad) and some guy who never lifted before asked the store rep "what can i take to gain the most muscle" and the guy pointed him right to Methyl-1D and advised him to take, I went over and gave both of them a load of crap...people just don't understand what these things are or how to use them
    That's DHEA and forskolin isn't it? Not really hugely dangerous.

  23. Quote Originally Posted by jminis View Post
    When it comes down to it we here at AM are about safety first. If that means we have to lose a few battles to win the war then so be it. A lot of bro's come on dead set on taking this or that and want advice. Do you suggest then that we ignore him and say don't take it your not old enough or experienced enough? Or do we stay in line with our goal (safety) and recognize the fact that this person is going to use it anyway and give him sound advice that will make the cycle as safe as possible.

    We don't suggest those under 21 take anything but they will. We don't suggest nor promote it but in that instance I'd rather give the person a few tips to make it safe then to tell him to buzz off.
    Exactly! I couldn't agree more to this sentiment. I have a younger brother, who has watched my progress through multiple cycles of methylated ph's and real-deal injectables; who has been too eagerly attempting to experiment. It puts me in between a rock and a hard place because part of me wants to tell him to forget about it, hold off, and wait until he is in his mid to late twenties; however, I know that I have responsibility as an older brother to make sure he doesn't cause damage to himself by cycling the improper way. I figured that if he is going to do it, there will be nothing stopping someone with that much motivation. So, he might as well do it the right way under my supervision etc. I even showed him the forum and explained to him how to search different aspects of cycling such as pct, gyno prevention, liver protection etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by B5150
    09-16-2004, 09:59 AM

    I can recall a time not so very long ago. A time when M1T was "extreme" in regard to its potential dangers. A time when use and mis-use was a very serious concern by many members on the board. A time when statements like; "every kid wanting to get huge will be eating this **** like candy" and was of a serious concern. Our conscienses were very finely tuned to the potential dangers of the use and abuse of these compounds by anyone, and especially young kids just coming into the BB world/sport, with very little to no training and diet experience.

    Fast forward to today. We have 20-21yr olds weighing in at 145-165lb advising other 145-165lb kids who want to get huge by doing this or that methyl. Kids who don't know how to eat or train right. Kids who have trained for the first time in their lives now wanting to take steroids.

    What happened? Where is the board conscience that used to be so prominant? Is there a board conscience?

    Please note: I am not anti steroids, nor anti kids (young men), nor anti kids on steroids. I'm sure this may offend a few too many. But surely there are some here who remember "back in the day" when we used conscience and caution when supplying advise.

    I'm sure I'm not alone here.
    Wow! Has it really been 5 years.
    Quote Originally Posted by theface View Post
    Exactly! I couldn't agree more to this sentiment. I have a younger brother, who has watched my progress through multiple cycles of methylated ph's and real-deal injectables; who has been too eagerly attempting to experiment. It puts me in between a rock and a hard place because part of me wants to tell him to forget about it, hold off, and wait until he is in his mid to late twenties; however, I know that I have responsibility as an older brother to make sure he doesn't cause damage to himself by cycling the improper way. I figured that if he is going to do it, there will be nothing stopping someone with that much motivation. So, he might as well do it the right way under my supervision etc. I even showed him the forum and explained to him how to search different aspects of cycling such as pct, gyno prevention, liver protection etc.
    What you and everyone else is failing to recognize is that proper use of poison makes it no less lethal.

    Get back to us in 20 years and let us know if your failing liver or kidneys will forget that you responsibly used poison at 21 or 25.

    Not flaming you but at 21 or 25 there is virtually zero foresight and no insight to the value of your health.
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