Agreed. Good idea bumping the thread B. Very relevant.
I missed this thread the first time around. I am very proud to read it though. Don't laugh, I manage a Hollister Clothing store. I play big, big brother to 75 odd kids. I deal with poor decision making youths all the time. Kids doing what they do, jumping into an unfilled pool.
It will always be difficult to balance the successful athlete who is driven to research, and the kid who wants quick easy answers. I feel it is our duty to show a better path. Instead of saying DO MORE RESEARCH!!! (Followed by please lay off the caps!) I try to write down the key words. Sometimes we can answer the same question in a sentence, sometimes we can show the right path in a sentence.
In my youth I would have given anything to have known about a board like AM. We don't provide answers here, we illuminate paths. We show you the door. The answers must come from you in the end.
This board is full of people who have asked themselves many of the same questions, and searched many of the same questions. And so it is our purpose, to show others- the way it is done.
The mods do a great, tough job here. Balancing law, ethics, and mass amounts of info. I try to treat everyone here as though I know them. A community that looks out for the most jacked and inspiring, to the hungriest and perspiring. I take pride in using and sharing what I learn here. I'm proud to be a member. End of rant, sob, snot, cough...
Am I my brother's keeper? Yes I am.
Good thread! I hope the people who read this realize one thing. There is NO substitute for hard work and diet. It took me four years to realize this myself. What you do now will effect you down the road. I guess this is my two cents: if you think you are 100% sure you know what your doing, do more research.
yeah, incredibly relevant stuff. Good for all to review (or see for the first time!) Props to AM and all who dwell herein!
Youth is wasted on the young....I wish I knew then what I know now.
What do you know now?Originally Posted by Brfish
"I wish to God I didn't know now the things I didn't know then"
...for the boat-load of newbie posts that flood this place with the surge of the newbie OTC methylated steroids and ban rumors.
Keep this in mind when many of us are not as excited as some of you are when the newest and best-est steroid is made available at all our favorite retail outlets.
Or when you start a thread that says, dudes...I'm stocking up...what should I get.
Remember, we're the dummies...not you.
Originally Posted by B5150
2 huge problems in my generation. (i'm 17)
1. Work ethic, or lack of. This leads into problem #2
Problem #1) Your DAMN RIGHT when you say kids these days are lazy. I agree. We have everything handed to us. 80% of us either go home and sleep or play XBOX for hours after school.
This isnt just on a physical level. How in the hell is India and China pumping out better students out of college than the US? Not like we dont have the technology, were just lazy.
Problem #2) Why do islamic terrorist hate us? There jealous of your country. We have supermarkets and movies, they have sand, and more sand.
Why did hitler hate the jews? Jealousy. They had money, they (the nazi party) didn't.
Why do kids my age want to take roids? This is more complicated. Basically, they see big kids like me and the get, you guessed it, jealous. They respond in 1 of 4 ways.
1) Work ethic- re-read my above passages if you that thats going to happen a lot.
2) denial- "That kid is only big because he takes steroids" they think, so they give up before they even start to get in shape.
3) they get desperate- They take seroids/ph's
4) worst of all, a deep, dark depression- Suicide is the 2nd leading cause of death of those under 21. I'm willing to bet that most of these are caused by poor body image.
This would all be prevented if kids wernt so damn lazy.
Originally Posted by CEDeoudes59
What do you mean, if its on TV, its gotta be true
True.Originally Posted by B5150
Lets all get excited about Methoxy-this and Halo-that... untested, unproven, and uncertain substances...
In fact... let's all buy a bunch. Why not?
The biggest problem w/ BBing is the percepion that EVERYONE can become huge by lifting weights and popping pills. The two important factors in BBing are patience and dedication.
It is so bizarre to me that every person thinks by lifting a weight that they will explode w/ mass and can become a pro. I would like someone to tell me any endeavor that he/she can become the best in the world after only a few months. I am pretty sure that no person thinks they can play in the NFL after starting to play football when they are in their mid-20s...
From my point of view, being only 20 yrs. old, I don't like the idea of relying on supplements for gains off the bat. It really makes me angry when I'm browsing a few forums and read posts by guys who are 17-20 saying they know the dangers, but want to do it anyway. Why not spend the money on some good food, and learn to lift properly, and use minimal supps. I've only been seriously lifting now for abt 2 months and I've def. noticed a change from eating clean and working out with a good program.
Just my .02- I don't want to touch any methyl-this or that for a loong time. No thank you.
"A Native American elder once described his own inner struggles in this manner: Inside of me there are two dogs. One of the dogs is mean and evil. The other dog is good. The mean dog fights the good dog all the time. When asked which dog wins, he reflected for a moment and replied, The one I feed the most." -George Bernard Shaw
I think this should be posted every time a teenager asks about anabolics here (right before the thread gets locked).Originally Posted by bow
I think in general society has a miracle pill for everything. Why is a teenager guilty of ignorant use of PH when their parents at home take lipitor for high colesterol while they eat extra buttered popcorn on the couch. Hollywood has one of the most powerful effect on influential minds, all this is a world of botox, colonics, plastic surgery and last but not least designer eating disorders. Has anyone noticed how drug use in general has changed. Kids dont just smoke pot and munch out, crystal meth is disturbing, excstacy is widely used, and binge drinking is the norm. I am the only person in my family who knows about any sort of supplements, i continually try to educate my family but they seem so sceptical of supplements because of the medias perception of sports supplemnts. I think the coverage by the governments in north america is lacking to say the least and definetely inadequate. They IMO have managed to scare away people from supplements and opened up a new door for kids looking for something to get on. There has always been influential children looking to do whatever is inthe media, smoking proves it everyday. If an actor did juice in a movie think of how that made you feel, the music was all tense like you know its wrong and its goona catch up to him soon enough. But when someones smoking its pure exstacy and they love every second of it, so its implied that its ok and COOL people smoke. I think our perspective as people loooking to learn about our bodies and tap in to the fountain of physical youth is gracious with pure in tent of correcting the problems started somwhere else. Once they get here atleast they have a chance at making informed decisions. The problem IMO is not this forum and its advice or number of posts in any section its everyday life and this is a lifeline for someone swiming through the sewer of life. Dont scorn idiots, newbs or kids dont push them away, offer help. Weve all been young, uninformed, or out classed, but we never want to feel stupid isolated or small. AM helping to fix everyones problems one post at a time.
Great post Somewhat!
When I think about what my knowledge and attitide towards supplements and diet was 15 years ago..I shudder.
I just ran across this thread searching for something else.
B5150 nailed the title on this one. It looks like the problem is getting worse instead of better as far as younger guys jumping into cycles.
The MODS here do a great job trying to educate and keep these kids from making mistakes that could last a lifetime, but there is only so much they can do.
You just cannot afford to advise a teen how to use steroids or PH's, even though you know some of them are going to cycle regardless of the reasons we tell them not to.
With the tremendous influx of new board members this is so much more relevant. So many very inexperienced first time users sharing their (in)experience with other first time users is becoming epidemic. Experience means nothing without knowledge and knowledge means nothing without wisdom. Steroids are not dangerous in the hands of mature, intelligent, knowledgeable, safe users. Unfortunately there are far too few of these coming of age lately.